08-09-2008, 11:09 PM
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| Men's Epee Individual Discussion
After the string of upsets that plagued women's sabre, what do you think of the chances of the top seeds in Men's Epee today?
Italy is looking for its first gold in this event in 40 years. Tagliariol of Italy boasts winning records against Kulcsar and Wang, but is 0-4 vs. Jerome Jeannet. How will he fare in his first Olympic Games?
Wang Lei (CHN) was the silver medalist in Athens. Can he do what Tan Xue was unable to and hold onto his seed and make it to the medal rounds again?
Seth Kelsey comes in with the #5 world ranking and seeded 6th into the elimination brackets. His first match is most likely against Fabrice Jeannet. | 
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08-09-2008, 11:50 PM
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| I'm watching Li vs Wiercioch right now and I noticed that they aren't bothering with keeping left handed fencers on the left.
Also, Li had on a mask that I couldn't see a logo on, certainly not the big side patch I'm used to. The bib looked like my Absolute FIE mask I thought. | |
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08-09-2008, 11:52 PM
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| It was the same during women's sabre. | |
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08-09-2008, 11:54 PM
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| Li energizes crowd
Nothing really spectacular in the opening round matches. However, Li did get a nice reception from the home crowd. The crowd roared to life to celebrate Li's touches and once the bout got into double digits there was lots of chanting.
Li was down 8-6, scored two touches to bring it even and the crowd stayed into the bout from then on. Li capped off the win with a nice long attack.
I love the crowd response. Loud cheering at a fencing venue, who would have thought. ;-) | |
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08-09-2008, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK  I'm watching Li vs Wiercioch right now and I noticed that they aren't bothering with keeping left handed fencers on the left. | It's too bad for Adam, I thought that was a bout he could have had. They were both really tense going in, though, and Li was able to relax enough to win.
Home team advantage, most probably.
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08-09-2008, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK I'm watching Li vs Wiercioch right now and I noticed that they aren't bothering with keeping left handed fencers on the left.
Also, Li had on a mask that I couldn't see a logo on, certainly not the big side patch I'm used to. The bib looked like my Absolute FIE mask I thought. | it was a prieur fie mask | |
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08-09-2008, 11:55 PM
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| I saw it, nothing really special, but still some good touches. I saw him get at least one touch off a really nice fleche disengage.
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Originally Posted by Army Fencer It's too bad for Adam, I thought that was a bout he could have had. They were both really tense going in, though, and Li was able to relax enough to win. | Adam made progress into the second encounter, but Li really took control in the third. | |
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08-09-2008, 11:56 PM
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| what is the best bout next at 11 jeannet? | |
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08-09-2008, 11:57 PM
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| I'm going to watch Mejias and Torkildsen for the next bout, that looks like it will be the most interesting.
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08-09-2008, 11:57 PM
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I love the crowd response. Loud cheering at a fencing venue, who would have thought. ;-)
| I'll bet if you added fencing to any other event people were going to, and put an American up against someone from another country, you would have a lot of cheering. It's the getting people to come in the first place that's the challenge.
What I meant to bring up about Li's mask is I was wondering if he was wearing a Chinese made mask, either Absolute, Wuxi, or BG, and if the manufacturer's logo had to be removed for the Publicity Code. | |
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08-10-2008, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Army Fencer I'm going to watch Mejias and Torkildsen for the next bout, that looks like it will be the most interesting. | Heh, halt called with 2 seconds left, not non-combativity. 
One thing I've noticed NBC having a little trouble with is their replays are a bit too long; they frequently are halfway done before "Fence" is called again, and in the WS it often cut back just in time to see them return to the on guard lines again. Less of a problem for the ME, but they still are cutting off some of the starts. | |
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08-10-2008, 12:11 AM
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| Merde
Period 1 Jennet vs Katchurin; Jennet utters Aaah Merde! after a miss and a remise aginst him.
What are the statutory ( <<strike that: lets say enforced ) limits on utterances and mild profanity during a match?
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08-10-2008, 12:17 AM
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| Torkildsen ties it up at 11 with 19 seconds left. | |
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08-10-2008, 12:19 AM
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| what was up with jeanett being a jerk after his match? did i miss something?
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08-10-2008, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by the ancient one Period 1 Jennet vs Katchurin; Jennet utters Aaah Merde! after a miss and a remise aginst him.
What are the statutory ( <<strike that: lets say enforced ) limits on utterances and mild profanity during a match? | I would give a yellow card for disorderly fencing. Some people would give a red card. Lots of people, apparently including that referee, will pretend it didn't happen.
Mejias has priority. They use the box to auto-determine. I wonder if the trend I've noticed in the US (person with priority is noticeably more likely to lose) will stay true.
It does. | |
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08-10-2008, 12:21 AM
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| How do you have the option to view different bouts?
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08-10-2008, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK One thing I've noticed NBC having a little trouble with is their replays are a bit too long; they frequently are halfway done before "Fence" is called again, and in the WS it often cut back just in time to see them return to the on guard lines again. Less of a problem for the ME, but they still are cutting off some of the starts. | My issue with that is that they're replaying the touches I couldn't care two merdes about, but they don't replay the ones I'm interested in. I would have liked to have seen the Mejias 10th touch; it was probably Torkilden's hand, but it looked like was just the bell to me.
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08-10-2008, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by whtouche How do you have the option to view different bouts? | Note that in the live video menu on the nbcolympics home page you find not one, but four entries for mens epee preliminaries.
One for each piste/color section.
There is no indication of which is which so you just have to fish.
I am watching blue.
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08-10-2008, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by whtouche How do you have the option to view different bouts? | Click the enlarge video link, then the "control room" button on the left. There's 4 links to fencing video, each one goes to a different piste. You can set up all 4 to play at once and enlarge the one you want to see.
Or, watch badminton while keeping an eye on the pistes, like I'm doing.
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