Dark Knight

[KShan5[PrFC]]

This has to be the best movie I've ever seen. I just keep wracking my brain and can't come up with anything that comes close. Hell curing cancer would only marginally be better than this movie....and I don't even 100% believe that.

I'm damn near speechless with how awesome this movie was.

If you haven't seen it yet, beware of spoilers.

[InFerrumVeritas]

Originally Posted by KShan5[PrFC]

This has to be the best movie I've ever seen. I just keep wracking my brain and can't come up with anything that comes close. Hell curing cancer would only marginally be better than this movie....and I don't even 100% believe that.

I'm damn near speechless with how awesome this movie was.

Not necessairily the best movie ever, but certainly very good. It is certainly the best superhero movie ever made not because it is a great superhero movie (although it is that), but because it is a great movie. All of the inside references and allusions are there for the comic-buying audience, but for the general audience (in which the comic-buying audience is included) there is a strong story and, dare I say it, deep character development.

It is, however, by no means a kids' movie. In fact, I recommend seeing it before taking your children just to be sure. My little brother may be mature enough to handle it, but I know that it would terrify most of his friends.

[foillion]

The movie ****ing kicked the **** out of the rest of them...and I'm including Batman Returns in that list which pains me as seeing Michelle Pheiffer in that catsuit was what caused me to hit puberty.

Go see this movie.

Now!

What the hell are you waiting for?

-P

[yazzywazzy]

Lovely movie. Probably because it's probably sets you thinking alot and the plot twist and turns like crazy.

Still, the action sequence was awesome. I love the movie. You have to watch it at least once in your life.

[Mr Epee]

Originally Posted by foillion

What the hell are you waiting for?

-P

The world premier.

[D'Artagnan1673]

I'm seeing it tonight. My brother-in-law called me a few minutes ago about tonight. He's foaming at the mouth because its got a 9.7 on IMDB (#4 on top 250 list).

I'll admit that Batman Begins was the best Batman movie, and certainly the best superhero movie of our time, so I believe this series has the ability to outdo itself. We shall see tonight.

[telkanuru]

Best news- No bat nipples.

[App13]

It rocked.

[Nolano]

Originally Posted by D'Artagnan1673

I'm seeing it tonight. My brother-in-law called me a few minutes ago about tonight. He's foaming at the mouth because its got a 9.7 on IMDB (#4 on top 250 list).

I'll admit that Batman Begins was the best Batman movie, and certainly the best superhero movie of our time, so I believe this series has the ability to outdo itself. We shall see tonight.

Agreed.


Batman Begins was an extraordinary super hero movie, IMO, and this blew it away. I really want to see it again.
And now, on to a vaguely Dark Knight related tangent.

One of the things I liked about the newer batman movies as compared to the old ones, is the logistics of everything. The old ones, i felt, left too much unexplained about how it all started, and where all his fancy gadgetry came from.

For example, the Batmobile. I know, I know. He can afford it, he's a billionaire. But somebody built that mother. And even if he passed it off as a prototype concept car or something, what happens when that guy sees it on TV taking down criminals? I know that money can buy silence, but Bruce Wayne/Batman just doesn't seem the type to be content with bought silence, to me.

Same with everything on the belt. Someone came up with all the crap, and somehow knows exactly every situation they'll run into?
It seems a lot more realistic to me that he has all his base equipment, the grappling hook, the bat throwing things, zip lines, etc, and the dependence on his magical belt mounted ordinance is reduced. Anyone remember the "Bat-Carousel Reversal Spray" from the Simpsons? I guess it never got quite that bad, but still.

And military prototypes discarded for financial, rather than functional reasons? Makes total sense, and fills it in a lot better for me.

Ok. Sorry. Fairly off topic, but I typed all that and didn't want to chuck it.

[Got_Fenced_In]

...This is almost off topic, but this movie is a lot darker than the last one (Batman Begins, with Scarecrow... I loved that one, because I like Cillian) isn't it?

And... I don't know. I have a good friend who saw it and said it was pretty freaky. I wouldn't say I'm easily scared, necessarily, but really bad images in movies do sometimes make it a little harder for me to sleep. (I already have sleep problems ) So just how bad IS this movie? I've seen the concept pictures/drawings/whatever of Two-Face. They're kind of grotesque. But are they exactly like in the movie or have they made it even worse than those?

And what is this about a pencil + some guy's head? Because I know I have brothers who'd love to see it, too, but I really believe now that they won't be able to...

[Got_Fenced_In]

Also, no one is allowed to laugh at me because I'm a movie wimp, ya hear? I don't watch any horror movies, ever. (Thrillers with shooting and dying and blood and things... fine. But mutilated, dismembered, rotting bodies, no thank you.)

[whtouche]

Originally Posted by Nolano

, the bat throwing things,

Seriously dude?
Batarang. That is a difficult word to remember? It's like boomerang, only bat.
I mean honestly, if you're afraid of using the correct terminology because you don't want to be called a bat-nerd, you are participating in the wrong thread. And if you just couldn't remember the word "batarang" then you need to take some ginkgo or something.

Also: The movie was the best thing ever. Not best movie. Best thing.

[Shi no Tenshi]

Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

...This is almost off topic, but this movie is a lot darker than the last one (Batman Begins, with Scarecrow... I loved that one, because I like Cillian) isn't it?

And... I don't know. I have a good friend who saw it and said it was pretty freaky. I wouldn't say I'm easily scared, necessarily, but really bad images in movies do sometimes make it a little harder for me to sleep. (I already have sleep problems ) So just how bad IS this movie? I've seen the concept pictures/drawings/whatever of Two-Face. They're kind of grotesque. But are they exactly like in the movie or have they made it even worse than those?

And what is this about a pencil + some guy's head? Because I know I have brothers who'd love to see it, too, but I really believe now that they won't be able to...

Let's put it this way. The Joker(as played by the masterful Heath Ledger) is the most deranged psychopath you could have. His grip on reality pretty much doesn't exist, and everything he says is completely true to him. He has a skewed perspective on it, but it is true. Nothing is personal to him, at all. He does it because he felt the need to do so. It doesn't matter who. And it's fricking creepy, yet funny at the same time.

Yes, I laughed at some of the more sadistic parts of the movie. And, the disappearing pencil trick was the best entrance by a character in any move, ever.

Just watch it. It isn't so much scary as in the twitch horror movie, which makes you jump. But seeing the Joker do the things he does, with the nonchalance that he does them with, and then realizing that his actions are, in fact, in the range of possibility for humans....well, that's what's creepy about it.

Two-face is just somebody that deserves pity. He isn't exactly scary at all. Although yes, his other face is gross.

And you'll get to see Cillian Murphy for about 30 seconds.

[Nolano]

Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

...This is almost off topic, but this movie is a lot darker than the last one (Batman Begins, with Scarecrow... I loved that one, because I like Cillian) isn't it?

And... I don't know. I have a good friend who saw it and said it was pretty freaky. I wouldn't say I'm easily scared, necessarily, but really bad images in movies do sometimes make it a little harder for me to sleep. (I already have sleep problems ) So just how bad IS this movie? I've seen the concept pictures/drawings/whatever of Two-Face. They're kind of grotesque. But are they exactly like in the movie or have they made it even worse than those?

And what is this about a pencil + some guy's head? Because I know I have brothers who'd love to see it, too, but I really believe now that they won't be able to...

It had it's slightly grotesque moments. They are far from the worst I've seen. I feel like even if it were a little much for you, this is such a fantastic movie that it would be a shame to miss.
I don't know if I'd take anyone too young to see it, but I think you could probably handle it. Or maybe find someone manly and not scared easily to see it with. Of course, I'd offer, but distance prevents.

The pencil thing isn't graphic at all, it's just like "Hahah! Ouch!". Very quick. And funny.

Originally Posted by whtouche

Seriously dude?
Batarang. That is a difficult word to remember? It's like boomerang, only bat.
I mean honestly, if you're afraid of using the correct terminology because you don't want to be called a bat-nerd, you are participating in the wrong thread. And if you just couldn't remember the word "batarang" then you need to take some ginkgo or something.

The reason I didn't say batarang is I was talking about his bat shaped shurikens, and while I knew the term batarang, it didn't seem right for what I meant, being that baturiken seemed more apt, yet less used.
Although I guess it was fairly clear where those were from, in this one.

And Shi No Tenshi has summed up the Joker far better than I could.

[Catseye]

The Joker is pretty much cruel irony personified. They really have an excellent take on him in this movie, making him, in some ways, equal and opposite to Batman. I'd say most people would be fine with the level of violence in the movie, assuming you don't have one of those minds that takes the suggestion of gruesome imagery and imagines all the little details the movie doesn't show you. Otherwise, it's actually pretty gore free.

[Mr.MightyMouse]

It was a terrific movie, and I will try not to repeat previous comments, just add sumpm', if possible.


On the positive side :
Mr. Bale as always steals every movie he is in, see "The Machinist" and "3.10 to Yuma" for reference - to me he outshined Mr' Ledger , as did Messrs. Caine and Roberts.

It is really good to see Eric Roberts in something more meaningful than The Killers video, I think "Spun" was his last decent movie; see "The Pope of Greenwich Village" for reference.

The whole Rachel Dawes character is impeccable.

On the somewhat not so positive side

No twist or dance that this movie has , has not been formulated in the "Saw" trilogy, Coen Brothers extravaganzas, or previous superhero/action opuses such as "Treminator" .
The sown in cell phone, pool cue battle, and the hostage masquerade are "Saw" verbatim.

Heath Ledger, while absolutely brilliant, seemed to have mixed mannerisms from
Jim Carey's "The Mask", Al Pacino's "Devil's Advocate",Dustin Hoffman's Enrico "Ratso" Rizzo in "Midnight Cowboy" which later somewhat reappeared in "Rainman", James Cagney's "Public Enemy", and Robert DeNiro's "Angelheart" - not that there is anything's wrong with those inspirations.
The movie is a bit drawn out, but I thought the same of "Braveheart", some twists just reappear in order to blow something new up.

[D'Artagnan1673]

The Dark Knight was excellent.

That being said, I still prefer Batman Begins. Why?

I prefer the story of origin which is provided in the original. The first movie was primary was a story of origins and motivation. The second, however, is almost exclusively a movie of action. There is some progression in characterization, but I felt it was rather lacking in this department.

I went the entire movie thinking that Liam Neeson's character was better than the Joker. I only changed my mind at the very last (I'll expect those who have seen the movie to know what I mean).

[Phantom5588]

"How about a magic trick...I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...*WHAM*...TA-DA!"

Favorite part of the entire movie.

Other than that, I think it's lame-sauce that Katie Holmes opted out of this movie...I blame Tom Cruise. Maggie Gyllenhaal was spectacular in the role though, but for consistency, I wish they had used the same actress for the part.

[Mr.MightyMouse]

Originally Posted by D'Artagnan1673

I went the entire movie thinking that Liam Neeson's character was better than the Joker. I only changed my mind at the very last (I'll expect those who have seen the movie to know what I mean).

I'm not sure why?
Liam Neeson was excellent in BB almost on Ben Kingsley's level IMHO.
The 2 movies flow together quite well - a lot better than Keaton's escapades, I did really like Nicholson's Joker though, not as much as Ledger's.