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    Quote Originally Posted by piste off View Post
    I spoke to Richard last night.

    He did not recognize the term, and questioned where in the book it was seen.

    We spoke about it briefly and his speculation was that it was a take in 2. He offered to give his perspective if we can supply the page number where you saw it.

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    Sorry I forgot to post the reference. On second look it seems Cohen was quoting a different author: Wythe Williams....In reference to Clemenceau, "He delighted in....disarming them with a....coup en seconde, the most powerful blow in swordplay, almost paralyzing the arm."

    Found at the top of pg. 185, above the photo. Chapter Points of Honor.

    Thanks for remembering to ask him, sorry again I forgot to post the reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adler View Post
    Is that 6-2 up or 6-2 down?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustache Wax View Post
    Sorry I forgot to post the reference. On second look it seems Cohen was quoting a different author: Wythe Williams....In reference to Clemenceau, "He delighted in....disarming them with a....coup en seconde, the most powerful blow in swordplay, almost paralyzing the arm."

    Found at the top of pg. 185, above the photo. Chapter Points of Honor.

    Thanks for remembering to ask him, sorry again I forgot to post the reference.
    That makes sense, as he did say something like "Those don't sound like my words."

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    Quote Originally Posted by piste off View Post
    That makes sense, as he did say something like "Those don't sound like my words."

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    All the same it is still a curious reference. To me it sounds like this is refering to a hit to the arm from second. I am just not sure how the coup ties into the move....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustache Wax View Post
    All the same it is still a curious reference. To me it sounds like this is refering to a hit to the arm from second. I am just not sure how the coup ties into the move....
    The beat in second is so powerful, and jars the opponent's arm badly enough to "stun" or "paralyze" the opponent's arm. The hit itself (in foil) goes to the body.

    I suspect that there is a certain amount of hyperbole in this description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adler View Post
    Is that 6-2 up or 6-2 down?
    Harmenberg's Epee 2.0 has an excellent description of this game and the Soviet tactics of the time, for anyone interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrogger View Post
    Harmenberg's Epee 2.0 has an excellent description of this game and the Soviet tactics of the time, for anyone interested.
    Er...I wasn't really being serious, although I appreciate the recomendation.
    By 6-2 up or down I was refering to the score in a bout not an action with the blade. I shall try and be a little less obtuse in the future.

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