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    Olympic Prediction #3 - European margin vs. rest of the world in team events?

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    Assume that a team fencing Gold in the Beijing games counts for 3 points, a team silver for 2 points, and a team bronze for 1 point.

    Then, all team points for Europe are counted together. Likewise with the team points earned by non-European countries. There are 4 team events, and the bronze medals will be bouted over. Therefore, there are 4*(3+2+1)=24 team points to contend over.

    Hypothetical example: USA wins the gold in WS, and Asia takes one silver. All other medals are European. Then the rest of the world earns 3+2=5 points, while Europe gets 24-5=19 points. In this example, Europe wins over the rest of the world by a margin of 19-5=14 team points.

    Using this calculation method, what will the European win margin be?


    All team placements will be bouted over, see bottom of page:
    http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/fenc...14432493.shtml

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    Hi!


    Final Tally:
    COUNTRY GOLD SILVER BRONZE
    France 2 2 0
    Italy 2 0 5
    Germany 2 0 0

    USA 1 3 2
    China 1 1 0
    Russia 1 0 0
    Ukraine 1 0 0
    Romania 0 1 1

    Japan 0 1 0
    Poland 0 1 0
    S. Korea 0 1 0
    Hungary 0 0 1
    Spain 0 0 1


    By continents:
    GOLD SILVER BRONZE
    Europe 8 4 8
    ROW 2 6 2

    So, Europe got 8*3+4*2+8*1=40 medal points. The rest of the world got 2*3+6*2+2*1=20 medal points. This gives a points margin of 20 points to Europe in all fencing events, individual and team combined.

    Only team events:
    Men G S B
    Europe 2 1 2
    ROW 0 1 0
    Women G S B
    Europe 2 0 1
    ROW 0 2 1
    Total G S B
    Europe 4 1 3 (4*3+1*2+3*1=17 points)
    ROW 0 3 1 (3*2+1*1=7 points

    Here, the European margin is 10 points.

    Another thing to note: Europe took a completely clean sweep of the Epee medals. So much for the notion that countries which are not connected should specialize in epee, since the possibility of refs sticking it to small countries is smaller there.


    Have a nice time!

    Peter Gustafsson

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    Final Tally:
    COUNTRY GOLD SILVER BRONZE
    France 2 2 0
    Italy 2 0 5
    Germany 2 0 0

    USA 1 3 2
    China 1 1 0
    Russia 1 0 0
    Ukraine 1 0 0
    Romania 0 1 1

    Japan 0 1 0
    Poland 0 1 0
    S. Korea 0 1 0
    Hungary 0 0 1
    Spain 0 0 1


    By continents:
    GOLD SILVER BRONZE
    Europe 8 4 8
    ROW 2 6 2

    So, Europe got 8*3+4*2+8*1=40 medal points. The rest of the world got 2*3+6*2+2*1=20 medal points. This gives a points margin of 20 points to Europe in all fencing events, individual and team combined.

    Only team events:
    Men G S B
    Europe 2 1 2
    ROW 0 1 0
    Women G S B
    Europe 2 0 1
    ROW 0 2 1
    Total G S B
    Europe 4 1 3 (4*3+1*2+3*1=17 points)
    ROW 0 3 1 (3*2+1*1=7 points

    Here, the European margin is 10 points.

    Winners of this prediction: JEC, PeterGustafsson

    Another thing to note: Europe took a completely clean sweep of the Epee medals. So much for the notion that countries which are not connected should specialize in epee, since the possibility of refs sticking it to small countries is smaller there.


    Have a nice time!

    Peter Gustafsson

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    by country

    so by this formula usa and italy would be tied?
    "who do you think you are?"
    "Do you think by making someone a knight, you make them a better fighter?"
    "Yes"

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    Hi!


    Quote Originally Posted by Padawan View Post
    so by this formula usa and italy would be tied?
    Yes, your ability in addition and multiplication is up to par. (That is, if one is counting total medals - ind. and team.)


    Have a nice time!

    Peter Gustafsson

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    thanks I always knew that accounting degree would come in handy.
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