07-09-2008, 09:50 PM
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| [Ebay] Old ANTIQUE FENCING MASK Vintage Helmet ARMOR
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07-09-2008, 09:53 PM
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| All I though while looking at this was, WTF?!
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07-10-2008, 11:27 AM
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| Clearly a saber mask that was designed to be "daugerrotype friendly".
They thought that the fencer's anguished face as their eye was gouged out would enhance public interest in the sport and lead to a rise in popularity.
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07-10-2008, 04:21 PM
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| I gathered it was a saber mask, but still... it's just scary.
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07-11-2008, 10:04 AM
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| wow, it's like an old contour-fit meets Roche-Pre-Lexan mask. | |
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07-11-2008, 08:18 PM
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| My first impression was that it was a kendo helmet. But it doesn't fit that, either. Hm...
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07-20-2008, 10:41 PM
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| The hole size in front of the eyes makes me think perhaps it is for protection against batons. You know, the double ended padded thingies that miltary types train with.
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07-20-2008, 10:55 PM
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| Then why have mesh on it at all? It seems easier to just make the whole thing out of that.
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07-21-2008, 01:17 PM
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| It oculd be a pre-Napoleonic lacrosse helmet -- empire style. | |
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07-22-2008, 12:47 PM
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| I saw a mask like that once in a junk store being sold as a set with some arm and shin guards and a riot control baton.
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08-04-2008, 03:46 PM
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| I saw a very similar mask over the weekend at the WWI museum in Kansas City. This type of mask was used to teach basic fencing to soldiers using wooden sabers. A lot less thrusting was taught, I imagine. but The blade also seemed quiet a bit larger than the holes in the mask. | |
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08-05-2008, 01:49 AM
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| I don't remember seeing any sort of fencing stuff in that museum! What section was it in? I'll have to look for it the next time a visit.
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08-06-2008, 10:39 AM
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| Its in the new part they did a couple of years ago. Its in the portion of the museum talking about the US entering the war. | |
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08-06-2008, 11:16 AM
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| If its been mentioned on this board before, sorry-but I found the http://forums.swordforum.com/ message boards to be full of great information concerning old weapons. My son was given two RIA practice sabers w/o guards, so now we're on the lookout for the bell guards.
Somewhere on that website is a photo from a museum showing a display where two soldiers on horseback were in full uniform and practicing saber moves...I can't find it now, of course.
But if you're looking for info on old weapons, it seems to be a nice source.
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