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Old 07-06-2008, 04:15 AM   #21
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I disagree. If anything a coating like that is going to increase resistance.

There are very few maraging blades on the market, so saber blades get pretty rusty. You need something to take care of that.

Uhh...
That's actually what I was referring to.

And it would depend on the coating. I can't say for blade coatings, but anodizing, for instance, does almost nothing towards decreasing conductivity.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:50 AM   #22
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Colored blades? Why would you want a colored blade? Does it make you a better fencer?

Just a little side note to Inquartata. " I saw no blue S+M's either, just the rainbow ones". This makes no sense. How could you see NO blue S+M's if there were none there to begin with? It would make more sense if you said " I was at Nationals but didn't see any blue S+M blades, however, I did see some rainbow ones".

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Old 07-06-2008, 02:52 PM   #23
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Red blades? *starts drooling* As you can tell from my tastes in colors that im an evil b*stard... Never seen a red blade either. was it sratight red, or red-rainbow? We have every color except green and red(?) heres what we got: Steel, Blue, Rainbow, Gold, and of course my beloved Black. Let me know if there are any other interesting colored blades i should know about. I will try to seek out and preformance test said blades. I tend to prefer the stiffness of my Podz Pro.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:54 PM   #24
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Well, i may be wrong here, and SORRY for my two posts in a row, i would get HELL in some forums, but cant the coloration process affect the resiliance and flexibility of the blade SLIGHTLY? And it resists rust as aforementioned.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:55 PM   #25
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1) "I saw no blue S+M blades" is grammatically correct...for the literate English speaker, as opposed to the modern American. Don't try to teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

2) Perfection is unattainable. I myself commit a lot of typos ( stupid sticking "v" key! ). But a little effort is appreciated. In which regard, thank you, Bloodwrath.

3) I don't own a cellphone. I am a selective Luddite.

Edit: Uniform red. They were very garish. Not a fan, myself, but de gustibus.
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For some reasons, sabre blades tend to be more colored. Part of my theory about it is that it's because conductivity up and down the blade is more important, and the coatings can help prevent corrosion, a little.
The color coat has nothing to do with conductivity....it DOES have to do with keeping rust down in a controlled warehouse environment between manufacture and initial sale...once it gets out into the field (or more accurately, into someone's bag with their wet jacket tossed on top), it rusts like anything else, but by that time it's done its job.

The coating serves the same purpose as the anabolic grease that comes on uncolored blades....and it's a LOT nicer to deal with!

A side effect is marketing...the colored blades look nicer...especially the blue epee ones....VERY nice looking.

I have not seen a true green blade...the green I've seen was part of the rainboiw pattern
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Uniform red. They were very garish. Not a fan, myself, but de gustibus.
Can you get a sample of said "garish" red? Most people find my tastes slightly on the...how should i put this, uncommon side perhaps? It doesnt even have to be pic of the blade, it could be a simple square with the coloration. Thanks.
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Uhh...
That's actually what I was referring to.

And it would depend on the coating. I can't say for blade coatings, but anodizing, for instance, does almost nothing towards decreasing conductivity.
The coating has nothing to do with conductivity. If the conductivity were so important they would nickel coat it or something else that would actually help.

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Well, i may be wrong here, and SORRY for my two posts in a row, i would get HELL in some forums, but cant the coloration process affect the resiliance and flexibility of the blade SLIGHTLY? And it resists rust as aforementioned.
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Well, i may be wrong here, and SORRY for my two posts in a row, i would get HELL in some forums, but cant the coloration process affect the resiliance and flexibility of the blade SLIGHTLY?
Not when the deburring wheel on a bench grinder takes it off lickety-split.
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OK, the vendor is Athos, and today they DID have green blades...epee only, though. They don't have them on their website, so I suspect they're something they make a few at a time by anodizing regular blades.

The green, blue and gold ones are...think of a dragonfly. Very deep and metallic.

The red I saw yesterday was the same. The only red one they had out today was more of a pink, lighter and a bit more dull. Maybe just one that didn't come out well.

See the color chart here:

http://www.metropartsmarket.com/auto...icolor-c9.html

Rather like those, maybe a bit shinier.
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Now, I may be wrong in this, but don't several companies use the different colors to denote which general properities a blade has, hence the statements like "STM gold is the most flexible of the STM blades," like noted on Escrime's website?

Granted, I would assume that a green or black blade is so purely for cosmetic purposes.
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Now, I may be wrong in this, but don't several companies use the different colors to denote which general properities a blade has, hence the statements like "STM gold is the most flexible of the STM blades," like noted on Escrime's website?
I would place very little stock in such claims.
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Now, I may be wrong in this, but don't several companies use the different colors to denote which general properities a blade has, hence the statements like "STM gold is the most flexible of the STM blades," like noted on Escrime's website?

Granted, I would assume that a green or black blade is so purely for cosmetic purposes.
StM does not color code. Their FIE blades have come in blue, rainbow, and gold, in addition to bare steel....and AFAIK they don't grade based on flexibility...I think LP does that, tho.
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Im not sure about the color coding of other blades, but i know my black russian aside from looking absolutely stunning , is an absolute club. They're made like that specifically. I know a lot of the LP BF steel blades are whippy. My friends in particular. He can bend it 3" away from the guard. No exageration. Its like a wet noodle.
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Leon Paul Blaise Freres blades should be no different than other BF blades...
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There is the Green Rainbow blade from Duellist, http://www.duellist.com/cgi-bin/fenc...lades&pid=1014
That is the same as the "Chameleon" Leon Paul, which are rebadged Rainbow StM blades.
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Chameleon/Green Sabre Blades

Yeah, I was just going to say that LP had the "Chameleon" sabre blades (which Craig just pointed out are rebranded "Rainbow" STMs) at the Nationals. They are iridescent, but the dominant color, at least in the batch LP had out, was definitely green.
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Even the blue S+Ms are a bit rainbowlike. Uhlmann however distributes a true blued blade ( at a higher price, of course ).

I talked to a guy who had some LM blades out. PbT, maybe? Anyway, he said he didn't think they ever made a black blade. Yet I remember a couple of years where there were some around. Heavy, stiff, with hollow tangs...
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possible. Probalby for balancing would be my guess.
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