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Old 06-29-2008, 10:57 PM   #1
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Hello one and all!

Forgive me for having jumped into conversation without properly introducing myself! I'm a member of the University of Louisville Fencing Club and am going on my 5th year as a member. I'm hardly the most experienced fencer on these boards so I'll spend more time reading than I will typing, but I should warn: I don't shy away from sharing my point of view when I feel it merited!

Beyond that, I joined up back last year and actually forgot that I had done so...hence the '07 join date, and two posts.
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I dropped foil like a bad prom date for the much sexier, seductive saber. Can you describe a weapon as "slutty" because I'm on the verge of it...

No joke, the only time I've seen fencers cry at a tournament they were either the little kids or foilists.
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I dropped foil like a bad prom date for the much sexier, seductive saber. Can you describe a weapon as "slutty" because I'm on the verge of it...

No joke, the only time I've seen fencers cry at a tournament they were either the little kids or foilists.

"sabre fencers like it rough"
so true! like the coach at the tournament that shall not be named... they should save foil till last, since there is a 99.999999% chance that someone will cry, a coach will argue from the side of the strip, and the tournament will be delayed an extra hour. and plus, wouldn't you rather watch sabre? the kids at the demonstration left once we started doing foil...

just havin' some fun, guys! :P I respect everyone, equally. even the crying ones.
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"sabre fencers like it rough"
so true! like the coach at the tournament that shall not be named... they should save foil till last, since there is a 99.999999% chance that someone will cry, a coach will argue from the side of the strip, and the tournament will be delayed an extra hour. and plus, wouldn't you rather watch sabre? the kids at the demonstration left once we started doing foil...

just havin' some fun, guys! :P I respect everyone, equally. even the crying ones.
Or there could be an epee bout and take up the same amount of time.

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I dropped foil like a bad prom date for the much sexier, seductive saber. Can you describe a weapon as "slutty" because I'm on the verge of it...

No joke, the only time I've seen fencers cry at a tournament they were either the little kids or foilists.
Yes, saber is a whore and epee is a transvestite, but foil, on the other hand, is the beautiful chick (that's always been a chick) that you will want to spend the rest of your life with.

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Pescados, I would love to call you a dork for that series of similes, but considering I laughed....
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You call pescado a dork and you won't have the ability to laugh.
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I swore that I would never pick up a sabre many years ago and only stick with epee, but now I find myself swinging the old beating stick all the time, and oddly enough I'm now the best sabre fencer in my club. *sigh*
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Yes, saber is a whore and epee is a transvestite, but foil, on the other hand, is the beautiful chick (that's always been a chick) that you will want to spend the rest of your life with.
I disagree...

To answer Cardinalred's question, you could use that description. Why you would want to, however...

I would say that, mirroring the analogy:

- Sabre would represent Hawksianism, taken to an extreme, and perhaps with a fair bit of femme fatale added to the mix.

- By comparison, épée would be moderately-to-highly Hawksian, with moderate inclusion of elements of the princesse lointaine and the warrior princess archetypes.

- Also by comparison, foil would be moderately-to-minimally Hawksian, with moderate-to-high inclusion of elements of the soubrette and grande dame archetypes.

As they say, to each their own...

As a side-note, I would like to point out:
1.) Pescados666 seems to have his characterizations of épée and foil reversed.
2.) The follow-up statement "...that's always been a chick..." would seem to indicate that Pescados666 was *trying* to refer to transsexualism (specifically, one who had undergone sex reassignment surgery), rather than transvestism (members of one gender wearing clothing typically associated with the other; examples include Éowyn in LotR and Viola in Twelfth Night).

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"sabre fencers like it rough"
so true! like the coach at the tournament that shall not be named... they should save foil till last, since there is a 99.999999% chance that someone will cry, a coach will argue from the side of the strip, and the tournament will be delayed an extra hour. and plus, wouldn't you rather watch sabre? the kids at the demonstration left once we started doing foil...

just havin' some fun, guys! :P I respect everyone, equally. even the crying ones.
Or there could be an epee bout and take up the same amount of time.
"En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done..."

Sound familiar?
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"En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done..."

Sound familiar?
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Let me take a passage from The New 12:6

"And the Lord maketh the sons of Pescado the strongest and most brave fencers in all the lands, let them shout: 'My name is Pescadomandias, king of kings: Look on my Bladework, ye Mighty, and despair!'. There will be no equal, for the sons of Pescado are promised t greatness!"

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Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done...

En garde! Fencers ready? Fence!
Halt! Attack off-target. Nothing done..."

Sound familiar?
There's a problem. Unlike in epee, there's RoW...

Therefore, if you REALLY feel like attempting to insult foil, you should say, "parry-riposte, off target." and "attack no, counterattack is off" or "attack is parried, remise is off-target" etc. Unlike in epee, which ends in 4 or 5 possibilities, there are at least 20 things that the ref has to look for, instead of looking at the lights and the ground to see if the lights go on, or the epee touching the ground/table/box.
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