2008 - 09 FIE Calendar

[teacup]

The FIE has posted the 2008 - 09 calendar.
http://fie.ch/Competitions/Calendar.aspx

It will be interesting to see the designated US events. The junior world cups in Sosnowiec and Bratislava are the same weekend as the October NAC.

True, there aren't junior events at the October NAC, but as everyone knows, top cadets are eligible for Junior World Cups.

The Junior World Cup in Montreal is in October rather than January. It has been listed on the Canadian website for a bit. http://www.fencing.ca/english_index.html

I can't find it now but I remember reading that the designated US events won't be announced until Sept. 1. If so, isn't that a little late for those making travel plans for September and early October? Hopefully, my memory is incorrect and designated events will be announced earlier.

[noodle]

so am i reading that the arnold classic is a satellite event for men's epee?

[teacup]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I don't think satellite events are world cups.

[downunder]

so am i reading that the arnold classic is a satellite event for men's epee?

Looks like it.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I don't think satellite events are world cups.

They're not, but they do award FIE points. Lesser standard, lesser requirements etc etc.

[noodle]

Looks like it.

huh, weird. first time, iirc, and its historically much smaller and weaker than many other popular large USFA events.

[downunder]

huh, weird. first time, iirc, and its historically much smaller and weaker than many other popular large USFA events.

Maybe won't help it if you'll need 800N gear and an FIE licence and blades to enter? Maybe the world cup points incentive will balance that out?

[teacup]

One reason the USFA may be waiting to post the designated events is due to the fact that the European Fencing Confederation hasn't posted the European Cadet Circuit events yet.
http://www.eurofencing.info/EfcEng/defaultE.htm

[KD5MDK]

huh, weird. first time, iirc, and its historically much smaller and weaker than many other popular large USFA events.

I'll bet none of the other have bothered trying.

What are the standards for referees at Satellite WCs? Presumably no more, if not weaker than JWCs, where the referees have to be candidates for the FIE exam.

[downunder]

What are the standards for referees at Satellite WCs? Presumably no more, if not weaker than JWCs, where the referees have to be candidates for the FIE exam.

I believe there were national level referees refereeing at the Newcastle Satellite event here in the UK, I wasn't there though.

[KD5MDK]

Do you think the FIE has looked at how much reducing countries to one candidate per weapon per year will impact the availability of JWC referees? Probably beneath their notice.

[fencerbill]

Do you think the FIE has looked at how much reducing countries to one candidate per weapon per year will impact the availability of JWC referees? Probably beneath their notice.

Sounds like Roch pandering to the 10 fencer per federation countries again.

[Soberin]

The FIE has posted the 2008 - 09 calendar.
http://fie.ch/Competitions/Calendar.aspx

It will be interesting to see the designated US events. The junior world cups in Sosnowiec and Bratislava are the same weekend as the October NAC.

True, there aren't junior events at the October NAC, but as everyone knows, top cadets are eligible for Junior World Cups.

The Junior World Cup in Montreal is in October rather than January. It has been listed on the Canadian website for a bit. http://www.fencing.ca/english_index.html

I can't find it now but I remember reading that the designated US events won't be announced until Sept. 1. If so, isn't that a little late for those making travel plans for September and early October? Hopefully, my memory is incorrect and designated events will be announced earlier.

In Atlanta two years ago, Corinne had the designated events for all weapons squads printed and distributed at the SN. I believe last year she had them ready by August. It is obviously essential that the designated events for JWC and Cadet internationals are make known before September. Let's hope her replacement and the national coaches can get together now and sort the schedule out soon.

In the past two years the Montreal JWC was not designated for MF.

[teacup]

In the past two years the Montreal JWC was not designated for MF.

In the past the Jr. WC in Montreal has been designated for CADET Men's Epee rather than junior.

[downunder]

Do you think the FIE has looked at how much reducing countries to one candidate per weapon per year will impact the availability of JWC referees? Probably beneath their notice.

I believe the restriction is on candidates sitting exams, not referees on the candidate list. So you can have as many candidates on there so long as they pay the fee, but only one per weapon per country can sit an exam each year.

Sounds like Roch pandering to the 10 fencer per federation countries again.

haha unlikely. Only 12 candidates can take each exam, so that's not so good for countries in bigger zones.

[KD5MDK]

I believe the restriction is on candidates sitting exams, not referees on the candidate list. So you can have as many candidates on there so long as they pay the fee, but only one per weapon per country can sit an exam each year.

Do they have to pay the fee every year that they're a candidate?

haha unlikely. Only 12 candidates can take each exam, so that's not so good for countries in bigger zones.

Well, it will tend to reduce the number of referees from traditional countries as attrition takes its toll, and the replacements are limited. Meanwhile, smaller countries will gain proportional representation.

Of course, the overall demand for FIE referees isn't so big this will have a major effect, I think.

[downunder]

Do they have to pay the fee every year that they're a candidate?

I don't think so. I was only a candidate for 2 months, but I think I just paid my €60 each weapon and it got me on the list.

I think it is potentially a good thing as you hopefully will tend to have better referees turning up to the exams, thus better referees passing. In an ideal world us FIE referees would be continually assessed, but logistics and shear numbers make that difficult.

[Inquartata]

OH! Calendar of events!

I was dreading the thought of Rene Roch as Miss June.