If You Had To Or Else!!!!!!

[fatfencer]

For most people the last 10 or so vanity pounds of lard aren't the biggest deal. People just live with it and take diuretics to fit in that dress or pair of jeans.

But lets say you coach came up to you, or your spouse, or your sigO or whatever came up to you and said that:

1) They would leave you if you didn't lose the weight

2) stop coaching you and kick you out of the only club you can fence at because its the only one there is in the universe

3) hire contract Silverback Apes to have their way with you, combing your hair and calling you Dian Fossey, regardless of your gender.

4) anything else that is truly demonic and evil...hot pokers under the toenails, making you ingest someone elses fungi infested toenails, etc.

5) Time LIMIT: 14 days...14 24 hour periods. That's it.

In other words, you had absolutely NO choice whatsoever but to comply and lose that last 10 vanity pounds of FAT. Quitting fencing is NOT an option... assume you are copletely and utterly compelled to lose the fat. Weight isn't the primary component. Let's say it was calculated that you HAD TO LOSE 10 LBS of FAT!!!

What program would you create for yourself?? Be as specific as possible.

Try to include exercise routines, rep counts, diet plans, supplements (NON STEROIDAL)etc.

BTW: This is NOT about me in the slightest...I weigh 205-210 and am 5'9" with approx 17-19% bodyfat. SO totally not related to me. I'm too fat and am beyond 10 vanity lbs. I just wonder what you would do??

Please try and avoid threadjacking, endless flaming about Gatorade, etc. Let's try and make this a real thread. Some people really just might get something out of this.

Fatfencer

[TooLoftheDeviL]

Put down the fork, fatty.

[tchwojko]

Originally Posted by fatfencer

Let's try and make this a real thread.

Doesn't your own post kinda mess up that goal?

[Phrogger]

I almost hate to reply to this thread, because I think it's extremely unhealthy to lose weight so rapidly. I had a Marine who worked for me who had to lose weight in a similar fashion before a weigh-in, and he took a supplement called Hydroxy-Cut and drank nothing but juice and water for almost two weeks (he ate very little). He did a daily workout that included running and his regular weight routine. He lost about 8 pounds.

That said, it's extremely unhealthy to lose weight this way. Dieting doesn't work, and in order to lose weight, you need to change your lifestyle incrementally, starting with food/nutritional choices and increasing physical activity. (It doesn't have to be painful...eat two slices of pizza instead of three. Park at the back of the parking lot when you go to the store. That kind of thing.) Please don't try a crash diet, in all likelyhood you will suffer a lot and then put it right back on when it's over. You will binge the day after and then your body is kicked into conservation-mode, so you've just made it worse for yourself in the long run.

I'm not a nutritionist or a trainer, these are my opinions.

[Peach]

If I lost 10 pounds in two weeks, it wouldn't be real weight loss; it would be mostly water and would come right back. When I'm serious about losing weight and working hard at it, I lose anywhere from 1 to 2 pounds a week.

[Fencergrl]

My husband was successful in losing 20 lbs. in one day and kept it off....







Yup... had his leg amputated. Didn't stop him from bragging about his "weight loss".

[Nolano]

Well.... The closest I ever came to that was 12 pounds in a month. If I ever had to, I would head back to my routine. 2000 Calories per day, max, plus 25 miles of bike riding per day. It worked pretty well, and I want to get back into it.

[bigdawg2121]

I'm probably not eligible to respond to this thread but I don't think losing 10lbs in 2wks would be prohibitively difficult.

[seak]

yeah, you and your random 10lb weight fluctuations should be quit

The rest of us will search for the magical weight loss elixir

[bigdawg2121]

Well, also, I'm not sure I could safely or efficiently lose 10lbs of fat only and if we count water weight as well then heck, 20lbs in a day ain't out of the question. How about 10 in 2hrs?

[Grasshopper]

10 pounds in 2 weeks:

5 pounds / week.

Less than one pound / day = No problem:

8~9AM eat about 200 calories
12ishPM eat about 200 calories
3ishPM eat about 200 calories
5ishPM eat about 200 calories
8ishPM~ eat about 200 calories (but no carbs - eat tofu or yogurt)

You will find not eating carbs after 6PM will make a huge difference.

You will not be very hungry using the above system - and still able to get enough nutrients if you plan carefully.

Exercise as normal - eating less will be more impactful than exercising more.

Good luck to your freakishly fat friend. (Just kidding)

[Iron Monkey]

I knew a wrestler who tried to cut 10 pounds in three days. The result? He went into cardiac arrest, or something equally as horrid.

He's fine now, but still...

[tlucente]

I once gained 14 pounds at a Thanksgiving dinner. Yes, it was a contest between me, my brother and a friend, and we did weigh in before and after.

[mdstasinos]

About 7 years ago I went on a program and had it monitored by the doctor to make sure I wasn't hurting myself. Most people do not know how to manage their food or understand the processes of food and competitive activity. To make my story short, I lost 52 pounds in 53 days, 49 and 1/2 inches of fat. I had my blood work done once a week and checked with Bio-analogics the ration of fat to muscle loss, which were in safe ranges.
Yes, I supplemented and drank meal replacement shakes but I also ate healthier than I have ever done before and understood the direct impact of the food I ate and when to consume it.
I am a certified Nutritionist and I work with a wide range of people and health and performance challenges. If someone wanted to lose fat then they must understand their relationship to food, exercise and sleep.
It's all fun.
Mark Stasinos

[bigdawg2121]

Originally Posted by Iron Monkey

I knew a wrestler who tried to cut 10 pounds in three days. The result? He went into cardiac arrest, or something equally as horrid.

He's fine now, but still...

What other health issues did your boy have? This ain't quite the whole story. I watched a kid cut 10 in about 2hrs of practice and keep it off for 2 days until the match; he wasn't feeling great (and that **** ain't healthy) but he wrestled his match and won. Watched another kid cut from 140 to 125 (127 b/c it was after Feb) since I was cutting to 119 (121) b/c that's about how much I weighed anyway. He ate little more than a bowl or two of applesauce per day while still going to practice and limited his water consumption. Night before we left for Hershey he tried to eat a lollipop and had to dip it in water first b/c he wasn't producing much saliva. He weighed in successfully upon arrival and went on to maintain that weight for the team tournament and all the way through states. Time to cut weight: 1 week. Health? NOT AT ALL...cardiac arrest? Necessary hospitalization? Not at all. While doing dumb **** to your body is really ill advised (you only get one after all), the body is still capable of putting up with a lot of crap. I imagine he must have had another condition or contributing factor (other than initial body fat %).

[mrbiggs]

This should be a watercooler thread, as first of all it has nothing to do with fencing and second of all it's just fatfencer trolling.

[Grasshopper]

I would say losing weight has a lot to do with fencing. You will be more mobile, less burden on your knees, and have a smaller target area.

[counterattack]

Isn't the calorie/pound ratio something like 3500 calories (or kcals) to one pound of fat. Given a 2000 calorie use rate that would be 17 or so days worth of energy in 10 pounds of fat. I understand it doesn't quite work like that, since there are inefficiencies, blah blah blah. But really, to truly BURN 10 pounds of fat in 10 days (no water weight loss and not counting muscle loss) you are going to have to push your calorie needs up high (4000 a day usage gets you down under 10 days worth, but not by much) and cut your calorie consumption waaay down. Summary: I don't understand how you could over any sustained period lose a pound a day of fat. Someone please work the math or explain the loophole to do it otherwise.

[MyrddinsPrecint]

I would start with a double mastectomy.

Since we're trying to take fat off of me rather than weight, I can't just start cutting off other bits of me and get that high a ratio anywhere else...

I couldn't really stop eating an continue a normal life. I think my record from Well Balanced Meal to Hypoglycemic to the point of crying in public is 3 or 4 hours. (yes, I'm gonna go get my thyroid checked again....)

[Gav]

Originally Posted by mrbiggs

This should be a watercooler thread, as first of all it has nothing to do with fencing and second of all it's just fatfencer trolling.

I agree. I will move it now.