05-28-2008, 05:19 PM
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#21 | | Scrub
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Originally Posted by oiuyt  The labels cost us $66.30. That amount was paid for by the group of us to the USFA. As was the cost of printing and the postage. | There, just in case any paranoiacs missed it.
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05-28-2008, 07:19 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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| Alas, the bylaws seem to be right! 
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05-28-2008, 08:05 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee Anyone with a basic understanding of marketing/public relations knows that one of the most important decisions in any campaign is the identification/selection of target audiences for a specific message. Considering that I was targeted by a direct mail campaign with a minimum cost of approximately 50 cents per exposure, I immediately wondered why/how I was selected for targeting. | Some of the posts in this thread surprised me. If I was a coach in the USFA, I would be asking the same question. I ALWAYS want to know which list my name was taken from. I even developed a coding system whenever I provide my name to a company (with is very few). Often, I'll use a certain letter for my middle initial, or I might add a suite number to my home address if I can't change my initial (such as in this case).
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Husband while looking at the e-mails: "I feel like I'm living with a high-end call girl". Me: "Why on earth do you say that?" Husband: "There's all these messages for men wanting to be pencilled in to your schedule" (referring to my fencing work in the schools).
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05-28-2008, 08:10 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Fencergrl Often, I'll use a certain letter for my middle initial, or I might add a suite number to my home address if I can't change my initial (such as in this case). | My coding system consists of identifying:
misspellings
location of hyphens
existence of hyphens
ordering of parts of my name
Slightly related: http://www.catalogchoice.org/ | |
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05-29-2008, 04:50 AM
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#25 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by oiuyt That's a VERY good question. One which, unfortunately, I cannot answer. | Because then he'd have to kill you. | |
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05-29-2008, 04:46 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Fencergrl Some of the posts in this thread surprised me. | You and me both, sistah.
What blows my mind are the folks who immediately started jumping around and screaming about paranoiacs, conspiracies, and other sundry bizarrities.
My father is an engineer and a very talented amateur mechanic in his spare time. When he sees a car he likes, his first impulse to to look under the hood. No one thinks he's paranoid, or searching for evidence of mythical propulsion systems.
Sheesh, people, curiosity is a good thing.
It helps us learn about the world around us. 
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05-30-2008, 09:53 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee A possible answer, yes... but not the only possible answer, so let's avoid getting uppity about bylaws. K? | I sensed no uppitiness in his very straightforward, simple response.
As Dberke says, Occam's Razor at work. ... Even in quoting a bylaw. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor Often paraphrased as "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.")
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05-30-2008, 12:51 PM
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#28 | | Senior Member
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| Since you two, apparently, don't know how to use the razor properly, I'm afraid I'm going to have to take it away from you. We don't want anyone to get hurt.
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05-30-2008, 06:07 PM
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#29 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee Over the recent holiday weekend, I received a blue flier from the "2008 USFA Nominees".
One panel contained a letter addressed "Dear Coach", and it encouraged me to help "getting out the vote". | I'm curious just what was in the flyer? Is it possible to quote or paraphrase it?
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05-30-2008, 06:38 PM
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#30 | | Senior Member
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| JJeff,
It was mostly along the lines of...
This is a critical election. We need your help getting out the vote for the official nominees*.
We believe that the future is supporting current clubs and establishing new ones.
These candidates are the best chance to revitalize the organization.
Support Athletes, utilize new technologies, responsibly manage finances, provide new structures and listen to the membership.
Encourage you to visit our website. ....
There were also a list of goals arranged by topic and presented in bullet-point format. I think they were c/p from the website. Quote:
Originally Posted by Redblade | I love when people save me time by linking to information that clearly demonstrates their misuse of a concept. Thank you.
Oh, Happy Day.
------------------- * do we have unofficially nominated candidates? This wording is extremely slimy. ugh...
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05-31-2008, 11:36 PM
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#31 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee
* do we have unofficially nominated candidates? This wording is extremely slimy. ugh...
| No more slimy than the accusations made in the USFFC's latest mass email.
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06-01-2008, 12:02 AM
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#32 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by gorgie101 No more slimy than the accusations made in the USFFC's latest mass email. | Time to start a thread, baby doll...
Get em'....
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06-01-2008, 01:30 AM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by gorgie101 No more slimy than the accusations made in the USFFC's latest mass email. | It would be nice to raise the bar once in a while... | |
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06-01-2008, 10:59 AM
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#34 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee Time to start a thread, baby doll...
Get em'.... | I'd imagine she doesn't want to help in spreading rumors that she feels are slimy...
That said, I (unsurprisingly) didn't receive the email and would be interested in knowing what accusations she's talking about...
If somebody who did get it could forward it to me, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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06-01-2008, 01:09 PM
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#35 | | Senior Member
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| I've not recieved any such e-mail either. I wonder what mailing list they used? | |
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06-01-2008, 05:25 PM
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#36 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Somewhere in your nightmares!
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| I got an email. I wouldn't characterize it as "slimy". No direct accusations are made.
It talks about the failures of the current leadership, and the problems they have not solved. It does not mention the NC candidates. However, by concluding that the organization and membership would be best served by "outsiders", it indirectly continues to link the NC candidates to the current leadership and to paint them as "insiders".
Not only is this not true, or at least not demonstrably true, it continues to argue that outsiders=better performance. This is simply false. Outsiders are as capable of poor performance as anyone else. They are even capable of worse performance.
This continuing failure of logic on the part of the the FFC, along with recent statements ( "reduce economies of scale" )which lead me to infer that T knows economic lingo but not what the words actually mean, has finally tipped the scale and decided me to vote in favor of the NC people...
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06-01-2008, 05:28 PM
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#37 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Inquartata This continuing failure of logic on the part of the the FFC, along with recent statements ( "reduce economies of scale" )which lead me to infer that T knows economic lingo but not what the words actually mean, has finally tipped the scale and decided me to vote in favor of the NC people... | The super-delegate speaks. All that's left now is the popular vote...
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06-01-2008, 09:49 PM
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#38 | | Just Joined
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Originally Posted by gorgie101 No more slimy than the accusations made in the USFFC's latest mass email. | What was in the mass e-mail and who recieved it. I have not seen anything in my e-mail at all to date. | |
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06-02-2008, 12:13 AM
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#39 | | Senior Member
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| I don't know what email list Mrs. Hurley has been using to send out these mass emails. My husband has yet to receive one; not really a surprise. I signed up for both of the webinars that the USFFC have had and you must submit email addresses for those. The problem is I got an email from the USFFC before the webinars so they must get their list from somewhere.
I would assume that Mrs. Hurley would be the best person to ask about what mailing list is used and where they got it from.
My ballot is already in the mail so at this point any email from either group is spam and gets trashed.
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06-02-2008, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gorgie101 I would assume that Mrs. Hurley would be the best person to ask about what mailing list is used and where they got it from. | I was not asking who got the e-mail or from where but simpl | |
