05-11-2008, 01:11 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Knickers, butts, and underwear
Lovely combo! Please take the following in good humor.
My idea on butts and knickers is:
no one likes a saggy butt in saggy knickers. Everyone likes a saggy butt in tight knickers because tight knickers hold up saggy butts. I blame Superman for the buns of steel complex everyone is chasing after. 
On underwear and knickers:
No one likes bright pink thongs to be seen through knickers, unless using this as a strategy to distract the opponents coach either with the beauty of the bodacious bottom or the...horror?
On underwear and bottoms:
Does anyone fence in a thong and find it comfortable? Doesn't the seam of the knickers, you know...
Does anyone wear their knickers purposely saggy to disguise their aversion to wearing compression shorts? Or on the opposite side of the spectrum, does anyone wear tight knickers to highlight their bodacious bottoms?
I know there is a general trend of women wearing tighter knickers and it's more societally accepted for women to do so. Men, would you like to join the brigade?
I am considering sawing off my bottom to sport the saggy look I so much aspire to obtain.
I'm just wondering what everyone's opinion on knickers, butts, and underwear combinations are. This topic should be a concern to all fencers, as we wear the tight and white.
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05-11-2008, 01:20 PM
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| Couldn't you have started this in Water Cooler where it belongs?
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05-11-2008, 01:30 PM
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| I know at least young lady that wore thongs with her knickers exclusively as she hated all other options...except perhaps comando. She also chose tight fitting knickers to go with her buns of steel....now that I think of it, it's a shame she retired so early.
As for us men, I don't think that we have a problem with using tight knickers to show off our buns of steel so much as we have problems...errr, other things that might be shown off or have circulation cut off while wearing said knickers. I often avoid this, as my buns are so very steely that no amount of sag in my knickers can conceal them 
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05-11-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fencerbill  Couldn't you have started this in Water Cooler where it belongs? | On the off chance that this becomes a serious discussion of the etiquette and appropriateness of underwear choice and knicker selections...where else would you put it but here?
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05-11-2008, 01:55 PM
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| Just don't wear translucent knickers... | |
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05-11-2008, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fencerbill Couldn't you have started this in Water Cooler where it belongs? | I could have, but it wouldn't have belonged there.
While I did address the issue of knickers and fit in an inane and funny (IMHO) way, it's still an issue every fencer faces when purchasing uniform. I'm trying to poll how fencers feel about it and while it may seem an inappropriate subject to be discussed where whippersnappers still haven't been cut from their apron strings, everyone has seen it, felt it, and heard of the legend where hundreds of people father in a single locale and wear tight, white, and often see-through knickers. I didn't really see a problem discussing something which everyone treats as de rigeur at even the most local tournaments.
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05-11-2008, 02:03 PM
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| Frankly I have more of an issue with the guy warming up in head-to-toe (with skullcap) spandex outfit. | |
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05-11-2008, 02:18 PM
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| I fence exclusively in boxer-briefs.. :D
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05-11-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookeit I fence exclusively in boxer-briefs..  | I'm surprised the referees in your area are so ignorant of equipment-safety rules if they let you hook up in your underwear. | |
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05-11-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by telkanuru Frankly I have more of an issue with the guy warming up in head-to-toe (with skullcap) spandex outfit. | And then there's the coach who warms up fencers at NACs/SN in his coaching jacket and black tights.
(Have to watch my apostrophes.)
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05-11-2008, 03:03 PM
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| I prefer tight clothes, Skinny jeans, slim-fit tee's, erm... other things...
I'd imagine I'd like tight knickers, but stretch. No one likes to be restricted in the crotch or knees. Besides, I have to fence in a cup (school rules) so that adds a effect with the stretch :P
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05-11-2008, 04:25 PM
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| The females in my area fence with spandex shorts under their knickers, the male equivalent being compression shorts. Solves a lot of problems. | |
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05-11-2008, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Squall_Leonhart everyone has seen it, felt it, and heard of the legend where hundreds of people father in a single locale and wear tight, white, and often see-through knickers. I didn't really see a problem discussing something which everyone treats as de rigeur at even the most local tournaments. | !!!Where are you going to tournaments at? I'm concerned about events that have a lot of seeing and feeing, and fathering. Especially if it's "de rieur"....
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05-11-2008, 04:35 PM
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| White Under Armour shorts (or similar) make a great undergarment for knickers. Wear whatever underwear you want under them and they pretty much fix the see-through knickers problem for us ladies. | |
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05-11-2008, 05:23 PM
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| When I first started fencing I had the same thoughts. I wore bike shorts under my kickers for a couple of years and then switched to wearing long T-shirts. I also like the underarmour shorts too they really do a good job of hiding the panty line. In a pinch just wear white underwear and it won't show up so much.
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05-11-2008, 06:21 PM
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| This is totally serious. Fencing is not known for its fashion, and maybe for good reason: not many of us look real sexy when we're red-faced, and sweaty and bedraggled. Pantylines are rather gross, at least on overweight women fencers. While the thong is not especially comfortable, it usually addresses the line faux pas. (I cannot imagine its color showing under my heavy knickers, but then I'm more concerned about white making my butt look too big. )  The underarmor is more comfortable, fer sure. Now, if I could only find a chest protector that lifts and separates....  | |
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05-12-2008, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gorgie101 I wore bike shorts under my kickers for a couple of years and then switched to wearing long T-shirts. | Long t-shirts under your breeches..? 
I only wear boxer short type knickers under my breeches. I'm not fond of the idea of wearing biking/spandex shorts as I don't want to add another layer of fabric; it gets warm enough as it is.
I'm fairly sure my breeches aren't "see through" and if they are -- why the hell are you looking at my butt anyways?!
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05-12-2008, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen why the hell are you looking at my butt anyways?! | Do you really need to ask? | |
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05-12-2008, 09:28 AM
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| For those people worried about see-through knickers, have you given a thought to just how protective they can be? | |
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05-12-2008, 09:50 AM
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| Blergh - see through butt. My solution is generally for a really long t-shirt and white undies....
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