05-11-2008, 12:08 PM
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| Mac Shaker opens club in Williamsburg VA
Regards
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05-11-2008, 01:56 PM
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| I care. Really. | 
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05-11-2008, 08:39 PM
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| It is too bad that I don't live in Williamsburg anymore. I used to live down the road from New Town. Good luck with the new club. Do you have a website? What weapons are taught? What levels of skill? Predominantly recreation or strongly competitive? is there contact information for any interested parties? What are your facilities like? What are the dirty little details?
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05-11-2008, 09:35 PM
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| ok not be obnoxious, but there's a rather strong collegiate club fencing team in your city, and yet on your fencing in college page it only has a link to the ncaa site.
Anyways while not New York (by any stretch) Va has pretty decent fencing.
Good luck, and nice to see more fencing clubs.
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05-12-2008, 01:49 AM
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| Why be *****y?
He was only announcing his new club and letting people know some of his recent successes.
Jeez!!
I remember meeting Mag years ago. Tall guy. Seemed pretty cool. Best of luck to him. God willing, his club will be successful.
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05-12-2008, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fatfencer  He was only announcing his new club and letting people know some of his recent successes.
Jeez!!
I remember meeting Mag years ago. Tall guy. Seemed pretty cool. Best of luck to him. God willing, his club will be successful.
Fatfencer | Saying an entire state doesn't have a strong fencing program is bound to offend the people who spend a HUGE amount of time fencing, coaching, and reffing in that state.
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05-12-2008, 02:27 AM
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| I remember Shaker from a junior world cup in England we competed in a long time ago. He is the real deal when it comes to foil fencing. Anybody able to train with him should.
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05-12-2008, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Williamsburg VA Virginia is not at this time a strong division but I hope to change this in the near future. | This is what I was referring to. He could have annouced his club without taking a shot at our division, which he was a very small part of in the past. | |
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05-12-2008, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cylucente This is what I was referring to. He could have annouced his club without taking a shot at our division, which he was a very small part of in the past. | Mmm, I second that, VA is not full of potatoes only anymore... If "strong" to this person means Metropolitan strong, then, well, there's nothing to compare as there is only one division like Metro these days... Otherwise, VA can give any division a decent run for the money... | |
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05-12-2008, 09:58 AM
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| Prediction: People will start arguing about what south Virginia includes.
Best of luck Mag in your new endeavor.
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05-12-2008, 10:04 AM
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| If you say the state of Virginia people tend to think you mean the entire state which includes Northern Va, and Richmond. If you say Virginia south of Richmond, then I think you'll get far less disagreement.
Glad you hear you offered your time, I was more referring to your website, which seems to imply that the only college fencing is NCAA. This may be my personal bias, but it seems that there are folks out there who seem to take the attitude that only NCAA fencing is worth it (for people who know how to fence), and as a former collegiate club fencer and coach this bothers me. Glad to here that's not you. | |
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05-12-2008, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Williamsburg VA Give me a break, you know this is not what I meant by my statement. I personally think with the talent in Va we could have more than "one" which I know very well. Yes, if you know him, then you know that I was his coach in northern VA. I'm sorry if it threatens you to the point of petty statements, that I want to bring the same level of fencing to the south. | Lol, more competition means better fencing within driving distance! I think you should throw an opening competition with a gala afterwards... | |
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05-12-2008, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Williamsburg VA I meant to say; Va at this time doesn't have a strong "SOUTHERN" division as you all know. | Now really, how was I (or anyone else) supposed to know that you meant Virginia south of Richmond, when you implied that Virginia division was weak? I'm not even in (nor have I ever been in) Virginia division, I just fence there a lot.
I have heard good things about you as a foil coach, and am sure you will be an asset to Virginia division. I just hope you coach saber, we need more saber fencers in this part of the country. | |
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05-12-2008, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by seak Now really, how was I (or anyone else) supposed to know that you meant Virginia south of Richmond, when you implied that Virginia division was weak? I'm not even in (nor have I ever been in) Virginia division, I just fence there a lot.
I have heard good things about you as a foil coach, and am sure you will be an asset to Virginia division. I just hope you coach saber, we need more saber fencers in this part of the country. | We also want more awards like at the Cherry Blossom or that one event that had a giant battleaxe for a trophy... well, I'd prefer art over battleaxes... | |
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05-12-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Williamsburg VA Give me a break, you know this is not what I meant by my statement. I personally think with the talent in Va we could have more than "one" which I know very well. Yes, if you know him, then you know that I was his coach in northern VA. I'm sorry if it threatens you to the point of petty statements, that I want to bring the same level of fencing to the south. |
As someone who has absolutely busted her a** working on the VA division board, and putting Richmond Fencing Club in a permanent space with strong fencers and full-time coaches for years, you can see how your first statement struck a nerve. I am not threatened by your statement in any way, and apologize that I shot off a quick reply, so I'm willing to let it go if you are. I would love to see the level of fencing raise in, I think it would be more of Southeastern, than just south (but I have no sense of direction, other than that I know that Williamsburg and the beach is east of here). Anyway, in the Williamsburg/Tidewater area, since it is not far from our club, which means the possibilty of more fencing in the area, since we have not had many tournaments southeast of Richmond other than WM tournaments in the last few years (we used to have some in Tidewater previously).
You might want to come the VA division annual meeting this year if you are available - it's in Richmond on June 14 after champs that day (afternoon, probably). | |
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05-12-2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Williamsburg VA Thanks for unnecessary attacks. You all have made me feel quite welcome. | Welcome to Fnet.......it's a great group, isn't it? 
I met you at JO's. Congrats on your new club!
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05-12-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by seak Now really, how was I (or anyone else) supposed to know that you meant Virginia south of Richmond, when you implied that Virginia division was weak? I'm not even in (nor have I ever been in) Virginia division, I just fence there a lot.
I have heard good things about you as a foil coach, and am sure you will be an asset to Virginia division. I just hope you coach saber, we need more saber fencers in this part of the country. | Ehhh, if he sticks to just foil I won't be mad at him. The lack of foil is significantly worse than the lack of saber quality-wise. There's a relative lack of legitimately strong foil fencing once you get south of Richmond and anywhere north of ATL (yeah, we can name a few exceptions but it's a very small few).
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05-12-2008, 09:58 PM
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I can't believe the negative response from some - thankfully not all - of the people on this site to a person who is simply trying to set up a business that will ultimately benefit fencing.
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05-13-2008, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sabrelion Anonimity appears to give courage to those who detest initiative and guts. | You realize that 2 of the people (myself included) who were critical of the OP are very much NOT anonymous?
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05-13-2008, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Williamsburg VA I meant no disrespect to VA fencing. There are great fencers and coaches here, my comment was that, I'm sorry, "southern" VA could be stronger. I was not putting the state, fencers or coaches down. I'm trying to bring more fencing south of the Richmond / DC area. English is not my native language, I'm deeply sorry if anyone was offended by the wording of my announcement of the club. As for the collegiate team in the area, it is truly a great team. I offered my time for free after hearing of the tragic accident of their coach and team members. At this time, the team is doing well working with someone in the Richmond area. I wish them the best. |
This is good news for any Division. The more clubs there are the more fencers. The better they get the better everyone gets.
Congrats on your club...
The reception of your post seems a bit strange to me. Competition for clubs is always good. It promotes fencing for more people.
There is room isn't there in Virginia??
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