04-25-2008, 02:30 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Troy, IL (outside St. Louis)
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| Italian Foils for Sale Hello all. As some of you may be aware, I've been looking to switch to pistol for a while now. I now have two shiny new Vniti Viscontis, and one dry StM Visconti, on the way from FNet, and assuming success with those, I will order an extra Vniti as a backup. This means that I will be getting rid of my Italians (well, all but the first, Triplette one, I intend to hang it up or something 'cause it looks cool...after thorough polishing...).
Before you read on, know that I spent a lot of time constructing this post, it is long and thorough; I believe in honest and fair trade, so I wanted to put everything on the table. Any questions are appreciated.
That's five Italian foils I need to get rid of, four electric, one dry. I will begin with a description of each.
All the electics are 100% Uhlmann. They have a medium stiffness and excellent balance. They have French tips and two-prong sockets (of course two-prong...they're Uhlmann). Two have never been used before, at all, not a scratch on their bell guards or a knick in their blades. One has only been used a few times, mostly because I was too embarrased to bring the following one to practice; it has a slight dash (I mean, the minimum to even qualify) of surface rust. The final electric has been used moderately, and it currently has moderate surface rust, which I am in the process of removing before sale.
Finally, there is the dry Italian that is rather stiff and somewhat heavy, but still a very durable and nice weapon; it has been used only rarely. It is an Allstar, but it has a simple "U" stamp right next to the Allstar stamp, so not sure what that means (nor do any of the board members who answered my post a while back inquiring about the stamp). Before you ask, I cannot take a good picture of the stamp, as my digital camera is about 5 years old, and back then was only $70 dollars, so you can imagine it's lack of ability for fine close-up focus. The dry Italian also had pretty bad surface rust, but it has all been removed now and looks nearly new. The only quality issue it may have is that it has some dark purplish-bluish discoloration (carbon scoring? Not sure...) extending through about 3 mm from the back of the button at the tip, but I think it is only on the surface as the discoloration is not present on the corners of the blade.
All the weapons are from The Fencing Post. The page exact page on their site I learned of the weapons is http://www.thefencingpost.com/Classical_Fencing.htm. Yes, I know they say their blades are France-Lames, but as we all know they went out of business, as not only everyone on the board will testify to, but also the Uhlmann stamps on all the electics, and the Allstar stamp on my dry.
All of my foils have been well cared for and not abused. None have any kinks in the blade/weird bends/S-curves, nothing. One thing you should note about the weapons, however, is that the welding job joining crossbar and guard is sub-par; it will almost certainly break after awhile (I can't give you an exact time, the only one I had break was after about 6 months of practice, twice a week, for about 2 hours at a time, plus a few competitions. I will offset this negative for you in a moment, however.
Currently, the electric Italian foils with French points are going for $111 on The Fencing Post, however, they offer a 20% discount on nearly all their gear (honestly, I have no idea why they don't just standardize their prices, but whatever), so it's real price is $88.80. The dry goes for $78, but after discount is $62.40. Negrini's site is experiencing severe errors at the moment apparently, but I know they used to sell Italians as well, but I can't get to their weapons (or much else for that matter) so I can't provide prices for you from there to compare to. Triplette/TCA also used to sell [very crappy] Italians (I bought only one, thankfully, before I realized my error), but apparently they stopped selling theirs; I believe theirs used to go for about $75.
With each foil I am selling, I will be including one extra crossbar/guard assembly. With each electric, plus the crossbar/guard, I am including two French wires, and an extra complete point (that's one tip, two screws, and one barrel).
PLUS, the first two buyers of the electric foils will recieve a second crossbar/guard, and an extra tip spring for free. These are per foil, not per order, so if you are the first to buy two electrics from me, you will get both the extra guards and springs OPENNING OFFERS: I WILL COVER ALL SHIPPING CHARGES, since I really don't feel like taking extra trips to the post office to determine shipping fees. - For the dry Italian foil, I am asking for $35.
- For the moderately used, currently-rusty-but-soon-to-be-cleaned electric Italian foil, I am asking for $45.
- For the slightly used, dash-of-rust electric Italian foil, I am asking for $55.
- For EACH of the never-used, new electric Italian foils, I am asking for $65.
NOTES:
PRICING/BIDDING: PRICES ARE NEGOTIABLE, and I am accepting competing bids. If someone beats your bid, I will post so here the most recent highest bid. I will not use names by anyone unless they announce themselves here in the thread. READ THIS THREAD REGULARLY TO KEEP UP!!! I will NOT be playing PM tag to cross-inform everyone. This process will go on for one week.
GUARANTEE - There is no guarantee on the dry or moderately used electric foils. On each of the of the slightly used and new foils, I give a one month guarantee against blade breakage/snapping.
SHIPPING - as I stated earlier I WILL COVER ALL standard SHIPPING FEES. Shipping will be by USPS, standard/cheapest/slowest rate. If you want it sooner or with insurance, specify and you will pay the difference.
Don't think I'm forgetting anything...
Thanks for reading all that. If you are interested, I would prefer you post here, otherwise PM me or you may be able to reach me via IM, which you can find in my profile. I also use XFire, which my screenname is TimberwolfCY, and Skype which again my screenname is TimberwolfCY.
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04-25-2008, 02:45 PM
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| Edits Okay, so it won't let me edit the post, the circle just keeps spinning, and it won't go. A couple things I forgot, very important for me, lol.
PAYMENT - I will accept check or money order. I must be able to deposit the check into the account, and in both cases receive payment, before I ship the gear.
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04-25-2008, 11:26 PM
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| Out of my curiosity to try an Italian foil, I'll take one of the never used ones, at the asking price. I'll have a money order by Monday.
EDIT: Once I receive it, if you're still selling the rest, I'll take better quality pictures if you want. These are a little blurry.
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04-26-2008, 05:11 AM
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| Alright, sweet, thanks Pescados.
In other news, I have recieved an offer for the dry Italian foil at asking price.
6 days to go...
Now I just need to secure some boxes...
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Originally Posted by foibles Anyway, that's the "why" behind everyones advice against using any creative alternative to jackets. Jackets dont stop bruises. They stop unwanted body piercings. | |
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04-26-2008, 05:54 PM
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| DRAT!!! This sounds like a great deal, but I won't have any spare money for another two weeks.  Otherwise I would definitely buy an electric.
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04-27-2008, 03:38 AM
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| Well, I can tell you that it will be...what...another five days before the end of bidding, so that's 5. If I continue to get responses sprinkling in like this, I will sell what's bidded on, and I may leave this post up for another week to see if their are any takers, like you. So if you can hang in there, and there are spares left after the initial week, than you can bid during the second week, before I put the remainder of THAT round on eBay. I'm trying my best to let the fnet community have the first shots at these foils, because compared to new ones from The Fencing Post, and considering the supplies I'm throwing in with them, they really are cheap, and I want to support the community some way, even if that means selling my precious Italians! So, if I were you, I would subscribe to this thread or what ever; you know, make it so that you get an e-mail every time someone posts, so you can stay updated (I'm going to do this soon myself as well), and you can stay on top of it. I would just reserve one for you, but I don't want to deny the people who are ready to purchase now their chance. So anyway, stay patient, and there's a good chance you'll get a second chance at this; I hate to leave a fellow member behind on eBay, where anything from rabid monkeys to cloistered penguins are sniping the auctions. I mean, I'm seriously not in this for the money; if I were, I would have went to eBay first; all I'm really looking to do is help recoup the cost of buying these brand new FIE Maraging pistol grips; I am NOT making any kind of profit here, unless someone bids something outragous.
Anyway, sorry for the longwinded response, just stay patient and, barring all the weapons being bidded on, you'll get your chance.
Thanks a lot for your interest.
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Aeria Gloris Quote:
Originally Posted by foibles Anyway, that's the "why" behind everyones advice against using any creative alternative to jackets. Jackets dont stop bruises. They stop unwanted body piercings. | |
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04-27-2008, 03:50 AM
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| Once again it won't let me edit, I was proofreading the OP and realized an error.
The complete extra tip included with each electric foil does in fact include a spring; that is not mentioned in the OP.
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Originally Posted by foibles Anyway, that's the "why" behind everyones advice against using any creative alternative to jackets. Jackets dont stop bruises. They stop unwanted body piercings. | |
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04-29-2008, 10:49 PM
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| Okay, new news.
The moderately-rusty, moderately-used electric foil has been de-rusted, looks great now. Unfortunately in the process of trying to replace the speghetti tubing, I managed to strip out the wire of the foil. The wire and glue came out very cleanly, it can be rewired easily, however, I don't have a bending jig, and frankly with work, I've been lazy (I'm surprised I got the gumption to polish both the rusty foils). So, I am reducing the price on the moderately-used electric foil by $5, to $40. It still includes all the extra parts as stated earlier. This is more than half off the original price of the weapon, even more including the shipping I had to pay to get it. The foil is in very good condition, don't be fooled by the price, I'm just trying to get rid of them to make room for my new ones and get a little money back. So if you want it, just let me know.
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Originally Posted by foibles Anyway, that's the "why" behind everyones advice against using any creative alternative to jackets. Jackets dont stop bruises. They stop unwanted body piercings. | |
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05-01-2008, 10:23 AM
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| One day left for bidding.
I'm still working on getting boxes. I should have them by tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by foibles Anyway, that's the "why" behind everyones advice against using any creative alternative to jackets. Jackets dont stop bruises. They stop unwanted body piercings. | |
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05-02-2008, 04:19 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA
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| Dang it, I was just about to buy a new pistol grip foil too. Oh well, I'm a sucker for a nice Italian, yes I know the pistol is better for modern foil competition, I just like the way the italian looks. Now I just need to decide which one I want...
So, what's the current status on each of them? |
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05-02-2008, 09:57 AM
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#11 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Troy, IL (outside St. Louis)
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| My Italian Foil availability Here's the status on each of them, as of now. Bidding won't officially stop till 12:30 pm today, but after that, I am restarting the bidding, since there is one other user who wants to make some purchases but does not currently have the funds. - For the dry Italian foil, I am asking for $35 - bidded on for asking price
- For the moderately used unwired Italian blade with parts, I am asking for $40 - Open
- For the slightly used, dash-of-rust electric Italian foil, I am asking for $55 - Open
- For EACH of the never-used, new electric Italian foils, I am asking for $65.
ONE bidded on for asking price, ONE Open.
It's up to you. Unless you do so already, I suggest you read all the posts thoroughly (that's ALL of them, each is important), as each has important information.
Thanks for your interest.
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05-02-2008, 09:24 PM
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| BIDDING IS CLOSED!!!!
I will be contacting the "winners" as it were, both through PM, and e-mail if possible.
Everything left, I can either reserve (in the case of Jack) items, or you can buy them directly. I'm giving priority to Jack since he claimed he wanted stuff first, but I will post here the results of that conversation. Stay tuned!
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Originally Posted by foibles Anyway, that's the "why" behind everyones advice against using any creative alternative to jackets. Jackets dont stop bruises. They stop unwanted body piercings. | |
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05-03-2008, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Timberwolf_CY BIDDING IS CLOSED!!!!
I will be contacting the "winners" as it were, both through PM, and e-mail if possible.
Everything left, I can either reserve (in the case of Jack) items, or you can buy them directly. I'm giving priority to Jack since he claimed he wanted stuff first, but I will post here the results of that conversation. Stay tuned! | Darn, I just got home a little while ago and was going to go for purchasing the "the moderately used unwired Italian blade with parts, I am asking for $40" I wanted the dry foil also, but it was gone when I saw the updated post...
So I guess that means I should get first in line for the new round of bids? |
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05-12-2008, 06:26 PM
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05-13-2008, 08:11 AM
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| Hey thanks man!
I see everything got there in one piece!
Good.
I am in talks with others to sell the remaining two, I need to check my PM's like...now, because I've been out the past couple days and haven't been able to check them.
Thanks again.
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