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Old 04-09-2008, 11:40 PM   #1
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Should (intentionally) kicking puppies during a bout result in bonus points?

Should (intentionally) kicking puppies during a bout result in bonus points?

Obviously yes, especially if the puppies are baby seals.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:58 PM   #2
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I think this is the only reasonable way to end all the ROW arguements going on. Priority is given the person that punts the puppy the furthest. I also think the puppies should be made to wear cups and fencers to wear visor masks (to make it more television friendly).

As for the baby seal pups... this should be a Canadian variation so they can do the same as the Americans while appearing not to.... it's part of our proud heritage.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:01 AM   #3
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You must return to the en garde line before kicking.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:08 AM   #4
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According to my girlfriend there is no kicking of puppies in fencing.


She hasn't been looking too closely at the end of a Y10 bout.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:14 AM   #5
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How long until this migrates to the WC?

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Old 04-10-2008, 12:42 AM   #6
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How long until this migrates to the WC?

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Considering this all your fault, it should stay here as a constant reminder of what happens when you bait the forum.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:52 AM   #7
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:19 AM   #8
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I think any dog small enough to be considered a rat on steroids should be punted. 1pt for every 5 yards it travels. Kicking a mastiff or bigger gets 1pt consideration for the wounds I hope you suffer. No points for dogs in between.
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:07 AM   #9
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This is a question I have asked my previous coaches and only sometimes receive a consistent answer.
If the puppy leaves the side of the piste with one or more feet, then the puppy ought to be replaced back in the centre of the piste. However, if the puppy goes off the back of the piste, then in the spirit of ground taken the full bonus ought to be awarded.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:28 AM   #10
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I almost agree with KD5, but would give 20 points bonus for every full ten yards punted for the rats. Cute puppies however, should not be punted, and neither should any of those dogs which are bigger than the average bear. Any other type may be punted, but only for the benefit of the crowd, and shouldn't be awarded bonus points, except for those truely brilliant punts of 40 yards or more.
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If puppies were punted into the crowd at the end of the olympic finals, this may help provide the kind of exposure we are looking for.

If this proves popular, it would be good to lobby for this activity to be brought in during the London 2012 opening ceremony. Given the memorable one-armed archer lighting the Olympic flame in 1992 at Barcelona, I would like to see a one-legged fencer dropkick a flaming puppy and ignite the Olympic pyre.

Edit: Having given the idea further consideration, I should like to submit this idea to the next technical congress. Having developed this as far as I can, perhaps someone else could run with it. This can work.

http://www.freeimagehost.eu/image/dc03af2949477

The diagram is to scale and does not show the fencer wearing a visor mask.

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Old 04-10-2008, 08:52 AM   #12
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The only question I have is:

Does it have to be drop-kicked or rugby kicked? Cuz puppies don't bounce that well. Babies yes. Puppies no. Flaming puppies....all I can think of is Paris Hilton's little mutt being set on fire and drop kicked into the Olympic flame. By a one legged fencer in a visor mask....I think I had a dream about that once. Or maybe it was a fencer drop-kicking a one legged puppy in a visor mask....Can't remember. Need to write this stuff down.

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(we should definitely get Doug Flutie to do this.)
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:43 AM   #13
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(we should definitely get Doug Flutie to do this.)
No. Doug Flutie was a quarterback. You would need someone like Scott Norwood, but then the puppies would go wide-right.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:54 AM   #14
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No. Doug Flutie was a quarterback. You would need someone like Scott Norwood, but then the puppies would go wide-right.
You obviously aren't a Patriots fan. I will never forget Flutie's drop kick through the uprights. It's classic.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2277308
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:14 AM   #15
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Since the consensus is for small breed puppies (and I whole-heartily agree), what about putting a catapult on the tip end of a blade? The fencer would hold the blade by the grip in one hand and pull back the catapult... and release.

This way there will be less injuries to the fencer's foot. Safety first people!
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:17 AM   #16
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In the UK puppies can also refer to boobies. .
I'd like to see the new rule drafted in UK acceptable language to avoid any embarassing mixups.

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That would be a bad kick indeed.
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:14 PM   #18
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Well, not QUITE as lop-sided as the PiL poll, but not terribly far from it.

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Are you allowed to spike the puppy after a succesful punt? Or is that a yellow card?

Do you have establish ROW if the opponent has a PiL (puppy-in-line)?

Would a hedgehog be a suitable substitute:
http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=1381855&nid=456

or is that more classical fencing?
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Are you allowed to spike the puppy after a succesful punt? Or is that a yellow card?
Where are we aiming for anyways?
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