Fencing Rule book

[Alamein]

Hi
Interested to learn if any one has compiled a fencing Rule book for new fencers,ie
School Fencers
The full Official FFIE rule books is just to much detail for new fencers
An elementary version would be appreciated
Alamein

[jmos58]

Hi
Interested to learn if any one has compiled a fencing Rule book for new fencers,ie
School Fencers
The full Official FFIE rule books is just to much detail for new fencers
An elementary version would be appreciated
Alamein

Not that I know of. But that might help the initial learning curv for newbies. Good question.

[KD5MDK]

Which rules should be left out of an abridged version?

[fencerX]

Which rules should be left out of an abridged version?

All the foil and saber specific ones, of course.

[griffindm]

Which rules should be left out of an abridged version?

Probably everything relating to team events. Most newbie fencers will never see one.

What I think the posted is really looking for is a more abbreviated and terser description of the rules, which I think is certainly possible.

[Jay Young]

Also, the ones regarding technical specifications. IMHO

[Beloit Fencer of Old]

Quite frankly, I think this is a brilliant idea. Much of the information included in the rule book is unnecessary for someone beginning in the sport. An abridged version of rules would help beginners get more information without becoming confused by the esoteric information they would read in the full version.

[Inquartata]

One might also prune the verbiage. For a novice it would suffice to read that the attack ends when the lunging front foot lands, for instance, without all of the qualifications and conditions...

[AllezCat]

This is a great idea. It would be an interesting project to produce two new rule books: "Fencing Rules for Beginners" which presents a slimmed-down version rewritten in clear, simple language, and "Annotated FIE Rules" which is the official rule book with annotations about what this or that rule actually means and what the current interpretation is.

[Mr Epee]

I too agree that this is a great idea.

There are many underlying principles and philosophies in the rule book that could be summerized easily. The rule book is not an easy read... and isn't clear to the casual participant.

There are also categories of rules. Some rules are in support of fair-play. Some rules support the smooth running of competitions. Some rules are for safety... and so on...

This could be a good resource.

[Nicksmom]

I too agree that this is a great idea.

There are many underlying principles and philosophies in the rule book that could be summerized easily. The rule book is not an easy read... and isn't clear to the casual participant.

There are also categories of rules. Some rules are in support of fair-play. Some rules support the smooth running of competitions. Some rules are for safety... and so on...

This could be a good resource.

You might want to check with Craig. I think there was talk about something like this for Parents as well as for beginners.

I think it is a great idea. After going to the event in Chicago, I'd like to know more about the 'rules". Do you really have to keep your feet pointed in a certian direction or lose points? Do you have to wear certian colors, etc? Stuff like that?

[fencerX]

I too agree that this is a great idea.

There are many underlying principles and philosophies in the rule book that could be summerized easily. The rule book is not an easy read... and isn't clear to the casual participant.

There are also categories of rules. Some rules are in support of fair-play. Some rules support the smooth running of competitions. Some rules are for safety... and so on... .

Get out.

What next?

Suggesting that people learn the basic rules of the road not by studying their motor vehicle code, but by using easy reading handbooks put out by their state DMV/MVAs in any of eight languages (but not French).

That's crazy talk.

[freerider258]

Get out.

What next?

Suggesting that people learn the basic rules of the road not by studying their motor vehicle code, but by using easy reading handbooks put out by their state DMV/MVAs in any of eight languages (but not French).

That's crazy talk.

Why do you think it's such a bad idea. We are saying the rulebook is very vague sometimes and can be very confusing to a beginner. Most fencers who are just starting don't need to know every single one of the 93 pages of the rule book. The idea here is not to re-interpret the rules nor change them to make them easier. You are still getting the true meaning of the rule, just in simpler form, in less words.
a beginner isn't going to want ot read this vague confusing representation of the rules, they'll just ask their fellow fencers and get the simpler rules from them.
So what you are saying is that when I ask my friend to clarify a rule, they should directly quote the rulebook, using all the language, and not paraphase, not summarize and not simplify it because the meaning will be altered in some way...

[KD5MDK]

freerider258 - Your sarcasm detector needs its oil changed.

[jmos58]

It might also help with the parents that don't know that much about the sport. When I talk to a team mate or a coach in front of them, they look at me like I'm talking in tongues.

[Purple Fencer]

If I had the time I might consider putting together such a project to compliment my beginner's prep book...but I barely have time to breathe nowadays....maybe after the season ends...

[Barry Paul]

As part of a project to bring fencing into a U.K. school program, especially for youngster using Mini-fence foam swords the project group I have been working with has produced a shortened revised rules which I will try and see if I can make available.

[freerider258]

freerider258 - Your sarcasm detector needs its oil changed.

maybe your sarcasm detector needs an oil change too