Rebecca Ward's three "S" - School, Saber, Sincerity

[drmom777]

Originally Posted by bunbury

Leave the whales out of this. They aren't harming anyone. Except seals. But who cares about them?

(To wail on someone was used as the vernacular. I was perfectly correct in my use of it. "Whaling" is when two people try to see who can get with the fattest girl possible.)

Definitely not correct, vernacular or not. Peach is right. "Vernacular" doesn't mean you can make it up as you go along.

[noodle]

Originally Posted by drmom777

Definitely not correct, vernacular or not. Peach is right. "Vernacular" doesn't mean you can make it up as you go along.

no, definitely a correct and agreed upon definition, not made up.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wail

[VorpalCat]

Originally Posted by noodle

while definitely an agreed upon definition by some people, it's also definitely incorrect.

There. I fixed it for you.

Seriously, using urbandictionary as a reference for accurate, proper usage? That's just painfully wrong. Try something like dictionary.com instead: whaling vs wailing.

[noodle]

Originally Posted by VorpalCat

There. I fixed it for you.

Seriously, using urbandictionary as a reference for accurate, proper usage? That's just painfully wrong. Try something like dictionary.com instead: whaling vs wailing.

did i ever imply grammatical, syntatical or lexicographical correctness?

the assertion made was that the word was not even correct vernacular and that he was making it up as he went, and i pointed out that it is, indeed, accepted slang both in spelling and use. you're not going to find the definition for it in dictionary.com.

edit: i was too mean, i took some out.

[bigdawg2121]

I'm all for slang and vernacular usage but when the only reason for a word's existence is ignorance and inability to spell properly we probably shouldn't perpetuate it.

[noodle]

Originally Posted by bigdawg2121

I'm all for slang and vernacular usage but when the only reason for a word's existence is ignorance and inability to spell properly we probably shouldn't perpetuate it.

i don't like moths, either, because they're not nearly as pretty as butterflies, and yet they still exist

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!

Originally Posted by piste off

Person A throws an untrained, wide and underpowered punch. Person A then runs away. Person B can't catch Person A, because of the later's speed and endurance.

Proof: Athleticism = self-defense!

Rick

Well, in the interview she mentioned that her knees were "shot" at age 18. Might affect the ability to run away for a long time, I don´t know.

Imagine when she is 30-something and is running around the house trying to catch small kids! Another 1-2 decades won´t make those knees any better.

Or, for that matter, when she is a senior citizen.


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

[bunbury]

OK, even I think this thread drift has gone stupid. Let's just conclude that I'm an ignorant product of an public urban high school who uses possible misspelled slang and move on >_> We have much bigger fish to fry, such as people who use "irregardless."

[PeterGustafsson]

No Hi this time!

Originally Posted by VorpalCat

There. I fixed it for you.

Citing someone else´s text, and knowingly change it to something contrary to what its original writer meant?

No matter how disagreeable you find someone else´s text, that is simply not OK. Either you refrain from citing a text, or you cite it correctly and thereafter argue the folly of the ideas presented in it.

This is where I seriously would like to have the negative rep option reinstated.


Angry like anything,

Peter Gustafsson

[KD5MDK]

Actually, it is a common part of forum discourse across the internet and frequently quite funny.

[TooLoftheDeviL]

Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson

Citing someone else´s text, and knowingly change it to something contrary to what its original writer meant is a common part of forum discourse across the internet and frequently quite funny.

There, I fixed it for you

[bigdawg2121]

Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson

When you find someone else's text disagreeable and choose to change it cite your correction by simply placing the phrase "there I fixed it for you", "hey now that's better", "what you really meant to say was...", "now you don't sound like a right silly git" or something with a similar meaning below the quote in your own words.

In instances where people don't understand this I seriously would like to have the negative rep option reinstated.


Angry like anything,

Peter Gustafsson

There. Now you don't sound like a pompous twit.

[jjefferies]

Quote: Originally Posted by jjefferies
Not a defender of China but in the interest of simple truths, I've recently heard that the United States has the largest in terms of total numbers as well as percentage of its population in prison of all nations in the world.

Originally Posted by oiuyt

I would argue that there's a huge difference between "being a police state" and having many people in prison.

While one might help contribute to the other, they are quite distinct things.
-B

One suspects it depends on whether you are one of the ones in prison or not. A gentleman pointed out to me the other day that stepping off the curb into the street before the walk sign allowed it is against the law and a zealous upholder of the law could do you for that infraction. A friend in the UK, a superintendent of police, who now teaches anti-terrorism courses, told me last year when visiting after the Bath World Championships that something like 80% of the British population is recorded on video some 4 or more times a day. And apparently the US is making efforts in this arena as well. Watch the crime shows on US TV. One of the first questions they ask is "were there any video cameras to capture the crime". Admittedly poor, grainy video.

But when your simplest activities are subject to video recording, the laws regarding what you can or can't do are so detailed and there is already a demonstrably large portion of the population in prison. Then the distinction between the US and a police state is getting really fine.

[KD5MDK]

I think an important distinction is whether the cameras in question are used in the prosecution of the crimes in question. If video evidence is never used in jaywalking citations, because such citations are rarely given out, I don't think they are directly correlated.

I think a key measure of the power of police in a society may be their conviction rate. Over a certain % and they are clearly not being checked by other restraints.

[jjefferies]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

I think an important distinction is whether the cameras in question are used in the prosecution of the crimes in question. If video evidence is never used in jaywalking citations, because such citations are rarely given out, I don't think they are directly correlated.

I think a key measure of the power of police in a society may be their conviction rate. Over a certain % and they are clearly not being checked by other restraints.

How do you know where the data is used? There are no checks no counter balances, no oversight.

In the UK my understanding is that they are trying to tie the whole set of cameras together into a single net. In present practiceI don't believe it requires a judge to rule that the use is necessary much less legal. And it's not illegal to record the coming and going of any one in a public place.

My point is that all that is left to create a police state in the US is intent. Not big intent. Another president who feels the opposition is too free.

[piste off]

I thought we were talking about Becca Ward, not prison wards.

Our Wards are much better than anyone elses.

Rick

BTW - jjefferies, wearing electric sabre masks will help protect against the Thought Police. It screws up the radio waves, man.

[KD5MDK]

How do you know where the data is used?

You look at the evidence submitted in court.

jjeffries, I'm not worried. I work for who would do it, and they lack the organization, skill and contract management to be able to pull it off.

[jjefferies]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

jjeffries, I'm not worried. I work for who would do it, and they lack the organization, skill and contract management to be able to pull it off.

Sorry but I'm enjoying this thread jacking. You guys take it all so seriously.
Here try this. It explains it all

http://www.snotr.com/video/936

[rdg]

Too wicked by half. I fully expected the dibolt spokesman to say: "programmers are going to die".

Sam