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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloit Fencer of Old View Post
    "Posting," where they hold the grip by the pommel to get extra reach. They are typically playing a distance game.
    in addition, that extra few inches of reach equates to less time to reach target....and a 1/10th of a second could mean the difference between you getting a one-light shot and getting a double...or getting locked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer View Post
    in addition, that extra few inches of reach equates to less time to reach target....and a 1/10th of a second could mean the difference between you getting a one-light shot and getting a double...or getting locked out.
    Also, epee is just completely different from foil. You dont see the same kinds of beat-attacks, parries, flicks, and bent-arm actions in epee as you do in foil. So in epee I can post my epee and stick out my arm while retreating to counter-attack and score. This is fine with a French grip, but these actions just wont get you anywhere in foil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OROD View Post
    Also, epee is just completely different from foil. You dont see the same kinds of beat-attacks, parries, flicks, and bent-arm actions in epee as you do in foil. So in epee I can post my epee and stick out my arm while retreating to counter-attack and score. This is fine with a French grip, but these actions just wont get you anywhere in foil.

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    You haven't done epee since I bought yours years ago, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer View Post
    You haven't done epee since I bought yours years ago, right?
    I may have fenced a bit several years back with a borrowed epee, but otherwise no. These days my only exposure to epee is when I accidentally see some as I check out the cute epeer girls at tournaments.

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    [QUOTE=OROD;667799]I may have fenced a bit several years back with a borrowed epee, but otherwise no. These days my only exposure to epee is when I accidentally see some as I check out the cute epeer girls at tournaments.

    Damn right!! haha, same story here

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    I've noticed that on electric foils, there is some kind of tape near the point. Is this to hold the point in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyman View Post
    I've noticed that on electric foils, there is some kind of tape near the point. Is this to hold the point in place?
    No - the tape is there to prevent the lame from contacting the bare metal of the barrel or the blade and preventing a touch from registering.

    Electric foil uses a "normally-closed" circuit, which is a fancy way of saying that current can always flow from the machine, down the wire to the tip, then back through the barrel and blade to the machine. When the tip hits something it acts as a switch, breaking this circuit. The scoring machine interprets any break in the normally-closed circuit as some form of touch, it then uses other circuitry to determine whether or not the touch was valid. Without some form of insulation (usually tape) covering the outside of the barrel and end of the blade it would be possible for current to travel from the tip into the lame then back into the barrel and blade, so the scoring machine would never see the break in the circuit and never register the touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyman View Post
    I've noticed that on electric foils, there is some kind of tape near the point. Is this to hold the point in place?
    Nope, the point is held in place to the blade with super glue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OROD View Post
    Nope, the point is held in place to the blade with super glue.

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    Nope. The WIRE is held in place with glue. The point is threaded in place. Some armorer's use a threadlocker on the point, most don't.

    As above, the tape prevents shorts from the lame between the tip and the barrel, which would prevent a touch from registering. The latest timing changes make tape more important than it used to be. Check your tape! Tape is cheap, lost touches are expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brtech View Post
    Nope. The WIRE is held in place with glue. The point is threaded in place. Some armorer's use a threadlocker on the point, most don't.
    Hahahha... I got me another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OROD View Post
    Nope, the point is held in place to the blade with super glue.
    Actually I find that super glue works quite well - if I'm putting together a dummy tip for a dry weapon.

    Otherwise I would recommend ignoring OROD's feeble attempt at a joke and listening to Brtech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJCFU#2 View Post
    Otherwise I would recommend ignoring OROD's feeble attempt at a joke and listening to Brtech.
    Or, maybe it's just your sense of humor that's feeble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OROD View Post
    Or, maybe it's just your sense of humor that's feeble.

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    Nah....it;s you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer View Post
    Nah....it;s you...
    Hey, dont make me come down there... 'cause I will!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OROD View Post
    Hey, dont make me come down there... 'cause I will!

    Meh.....without Benge for you to argue the SAME call with, it's not the same.
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