Screaming: Tennis Player Banned for Grunting

[seven6ty]

Look, you shouldn't fence in fear of yelling just because you might lose energy. If you're so worried about using up energy by yelling, then you must be a completely efficient machine while fencing because you aren't worried about each and every step you take.

It's more the fear of looking like a moron that I'm afraid of.

[Coldfire]

Originally Posted by seven6ty

It's more the fear of looking like a moron that I'm afraid of.

I can understand Inq's arguments against yelling but Im not sure I understand this one.

You dont yell because it might make you look like a moron? Seems like an insecurity to me...honestly I dont care of what the people who watch me fence think. If I get the touch, and yell, its still mine. If I win the bout I go on to the next one, regardless of whether I scream or not. I could care less if people think Im an @$$ for yelling.

[freerider258]

Originally Posted by Inquartata

Nah, it's already in there.



1.) It isn't generated, only released. And that's my point. Once released, it's gone. If you reach a point where there's little left, you "hit the wall". That point comes a little closer with every erg used, so why waste any on vocalization, which has not been shown to produce any tangible result? I mean, anecdotal beliefs that yelling "works" are all well and good, but they differ little from superstition.

2.) No doubt you believe in underpants gnomes as well.

3.) The human body is a machine. It requires fuel in direct proportion to the amount of work it can accomplish. Floating "energy" in a room is not a source of fuel, and even if it were there's no transmission mechanism for ingesting it.

4.) Imagination is a wonderful thing, but it just isn't a power source.





5.) There is no such thing as a separate "mental energy". The brain is a part of the body, and it works off the same power source.



6.) Can you actually document any such incidents?

1.) Well in fencing, you don't use energy as fast as you would lifting a car, for most people. Also, thats why states are spaced out so you have a week of rest, just like in football.

2.) Errrr no.

3.) I'm not talking "floating energy". I realize you can't digest photons of light. I am talking about the "energy" in the place. Maybe it passed you by, but when you play in the Superbowl and you have thousands of fans cheering and millions watching, you sort of get pumped up. You can be watching a movie and feel like you want to run a mile. Your body is a machine. Most people don't know how much energy they have in it untill it's released. Also, will power. How much you want something. You can be using your physical energy is a non-effective way. You must sum up energy to focus on exactly what you want and then, get it. Some people think they know what they want, other think they have it, only a few know and perservere.

4.) It's called faith- refer to the top of the pyramid of success

5.) Inspiration

6.) Yes http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline...a_man_lif.html

[Shi no Tenshi]

Originally Posted by Rick Thompson

Oh, man... I'd have to start teaching fencers to hold their breath during attacks. Can't you just see fencers bursting in the middle of a bout?

Are you saying the fencers you teach can't breathe silently? That has to be awkward in public.......

[KD5MDK]

Originally Posted by Coldfire

I can understand Inq's arguments against yelling but Im not sure I understand this one.

You dont yell because it might make you look like a moron? Seems like an insecurity to me...honestly I dont care of what the people who watch me fence think. If I get the touch, and yell, its still mine. If I win the bout I go on to the next one, regardless of whether I scream or not. I could care less if people think Im an @$$ for yelling.

You dont't feel the slightest embarrassment when you let out a giant yell and it's one light against you?

[Coldfire]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

You dont't feel the slightest embarrassment when you let out a giant yell and it's one light against you?

I would feel stupid for thinking I was going to get a touch that I ended up not getting. But my emotional state during the bout has nothing to do with what the spectators think. I would feel stupid for being so sure of myself and not because I looked like an idiot to whoever is watching.

[KD5MDK]

Ok. Just so you know? We're all laughing at you.

[epeeinacup666]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

You dont't feel the slightest embarrassment when you let out a giant yell and it's one light against you?

Only if it was the final touch of a bout....if it's during the bout and I yell after a miss,is it of no real consequence to me.

I guess I can be considered an epee 'yeller',but nobody has said anything to me about it to my face.And really,I don't care because about 90% of the time I yell BECAUSE I did got the touch.

from Inquartata:

It isn't generated, only released. And that's my point. Once released, it's gone. If you reach a point where there's little left, you "hit the wall". That point comes a little closer with every erg used, so why waste any on vocalization, which has not been shown to produce any tangible result? I mean, anecdotal beliefs that yelling "works" are all well and good, but they differ little from superstition.

Exactly.Yelling isn't a builder of energy,it's a depleter of energy.Human athletic energy is finite and if you do yell,you damn better have a lot of energy to spare for such an act during a competition...if you think yelling gives you energy,you are living in a fantasy land.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[freerider258]

Originally Posted by epeeinacup666

if you think it yelling gives you energy,you are living a fantasy land.

So that explains it!
*refer to my location*

[Mr Epee]

Originally Posted by Mr Epee

It's one of everyone's favorite topics, so enjoy...
Nine Year Old Australian Girl Banned from Tennis Club for Grunting

This is what happens between the end of Football season and the start of March Madness.

Dear Amazing MrE,

I'm sorry to inform you that the natives somehow missed that this was a joke topic, and have since deemed it worthy of 50 posts over the past three weeks. Somehow I suspect that f.net is a special pit stop on the boat trip to dead horse hell where the truly naughty beasts receive the posthumous discipline unimagined by even the most savage of earthly task masters.

Your faith in humanity is once again destroyed. I may be able to provide some valuable insight and hope. Feel free to contact me via PM for further consultation.

All the best,

MrE