02-29-2008, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In  No, no fair. We have multiple Banshees here as well... we've been calling them that for a while. | The only banshee's I've ever really encountered are the womens saberists. When I was an armourer at NAC B here in ABQ, they had them fencing on the strip right in front of the armorers'table. 
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02-29-2008, 11:58 PM
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| There was an article in the paper that mentioned our club. A critic was eating at a restraunt above us (our club is underground in an old bowling alley that's been modified). He went to the bathroom and heard the some of our fencers. He didn't know what the yelling was. Only later did he find out it was us.
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03-01-2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrior Princess There was an article in the paper that mentioned our club. A critic was eating at a restraunt above us (our club is underground in an old bowling alley that's been modified). He went to the bathroom and heard the some of our fencers. He didn't know what the yelling was. Only later did he find out it was us. | That's classic. 
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03-01-2008, 12:40 PM
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| At an RYC, I constantly heard this extreme, loud, high pitched squeal. Many of us kept looking around, unable to see where this ear-piercing scream was coming from. It was like those things you have on your keychain to ward of an attacker. Whoever this girl was, she was out of control.
We looked around, and there were no female events even taking place. Huh. Now I had to see where this sound was coming from. To my surprise, it was coming from this kid fencing in a Y14MF event. Ouch. One could only hope puberty would be arriving soon. It was almost unnatural. | |
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03-01-2008, 02:36 PM
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| theres one female in our club who screams like a banshee every...single...time... she makes a bloody touch. sad part is that its more funny than annoying, i've had to stop and ask if she was hurt through my laughter so many times she doesnt fence me any more if she can help it. i mean seriously, to pump yourself up and help with a hit is one thing (the chineese ki is what im goin for here) but after the fact its...what? i'm speaking for epee here- we dont have judges to convince...heheh
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03-01-2008, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In That's classic. | We keeled over laughing when we heard about it. We could also say (with relitive certainty) which people he was talking about. And he did find out what it was before the article was published.
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03-01-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA I didn't know Inquartata owned a tennis club. | Most people call it a "racquet". If you add some lead to the handle and drive a few nails through it it makes a serviceable club, though.
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03-16-2008, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Nmfencer That wouldn't be such a bad thing, would it? | ....epee is b-o-r-i-n-g to me, sorry. It may be fun for you, but saber has its place, too.  | |
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03-19-2008, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by seven6ty Yeah, saber wouldn't exist as an event, and foil competitions would be cut in half. Wow, that would pretty much leave us with the civilized folk, and we would live in a world of epee fencing. | well, i think, we also would be left with only MEN's epee, because, the women's epee, would be the first ones to be banned  | |
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03-19-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by c3l2vantes i mean seriously, to pump yourself up and help with a hit is one thing (the chineese ki is what im goin for here) but after the fact its...what? i'm speaking for epee here- we dont have judges to convince...heheh | Epee fencers yell because when you spend that much time bouncing around without anything happening, when you finally do turn on a light, it must be really exciting. | |
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03-19-2008, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dev Epee fencers yell because when you spend that much time bouncing around without anything happening, when you finally do turn on a light, it must be really exciting. | You got that right....Just look at that purty light!  | |
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03-21-2008, 12:43 PM
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| I'm an epee fencer and I yell sometimes in a important bout because, yes, I am waiting their for a long time and when I see my light, I let out a huge "yes"
It's really tension and release.
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03-22-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by freerider258 The energy you build up has to go somewhere. | I prefer the tip of my foil to my mouth. | |
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03-23-2008, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by freerider258 I'm an epee fencer and I yell sometimes in a important bout because, yes, I am waiting their for a long time and when I see my light, I let out a huge "yes"
It's really tension and release.
The energy you build up has to go somewhere. | How about into your next touch?
Honestly, no, nothing of the sort "has to" happen. If it did, ALL epeeists would do it.
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03-23-2008, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata How about into your next touch?
Honestly, no, nothing of the sort "has to" happen. If it did, ALL epeeists would do it. | Only if you assume all fencers are exactly alike.
Jesus, Inq, for somebody who takes such delight in pointing out logical fallacies, you sure walked into an easy one there. That was like watching somebody who nitpicks people's walking strides trip over his own shoelace and fall flat on his face. | |
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03-23-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata How about into your next touch?
Honestly, no, nothing of the sort "has to" happen. If it did, ALL epeeists would do it. | Well, for me the energy goes into my yell, which then mentally pumps me up. Each touch creates it's own energy, hence the tension between you and your opponent. Mental tension builds up and is transformed into physical energy which can go into making the touch, or you releasing it after the touch, so then I can yell after every touch i score. Just my philosophy on my. It's all in how you see it. I knew you would disagree with me somewhere along the way | |
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03-24-2008, 03:10 AM
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| Meh, energy is a function of caloric input and output, and chemical balances, as of blood sugars and electrolytes and such. It cannot simply be created "mentally" out of nothing. 
If you use some to yell, that's some you may not have at the end of a tournament. Believe me, you wll begin to notice this as you get older.
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03-24-2008, 04:03 AM
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| It might not be created "out of nothing," but it sure can be generated mentally -- mothers lifting cars to save babies and all that. | |
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03-24-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Meh, energy is a function of caloric input and output, and chemical balances, as of blood sugars and electrolytes and such. It cannot simply be created "mentally" out of nothing.
If you use some to yell, that's some you may not have at the end of a tournament. Believe me, you wll begin to notice this as you get older. | You can measure physical energy that way, but in tournaments, you can feel the energy in the venue and from other fencers so you can get it from there. Also, what you eat and drink can effect you. Look, you shouldn't fence in fear of yelling just because you might lose energy. If you're so worried about using up energy by yelling, then you must be a completely efficient machine while fencing because you aren't worried about each and every step you take.
For every yell, you might be "losing" some minute amount of physical energy, but you are creating so much mental energy, and you have to keep your mental energy very plentiful so using physical to help mental, now that's what I'm talking about!
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulMisho It might not be created "out of nothing," but it sure can be generated mentally -- mothers lifting cars to save babies and all that. | This is actually true. The mothers get extreme amounts of adrenaline, based on the energy of the situation. There is no physical difference in the mother, (it's not like she just tripled her muscle mass), but since the situation creates alot of energy and the desire to rescue the baby is so great, she is able to do what ever she puts her mind to, like lifting a car. | |
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03-24-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulMisho It might not be created "out of nothing," but it sure can be generated mentally -- mothers lifting cars to save babies and all that. | Nah, it's already in there.
Typically these incidents are followed by physical prostration, to the point of requiring medical attention and often requiring a day or more of recovery. Much of the body's stores of energy are exhausted in a single brief spurt, leaving little left afterward.
It isn't generated, only released. And that's my point. Once released, it's gone. If you reach a point where there's little left, you "hit the wall". That point comes a little closer with every erg used, so why waste any on vocalization, which has not been shown to produce any tangible result? I mean, anecdotal beliefs that yelling "works" are all well and good, but they differ little from superstition. Quote:
Originally Posted by freerider258 You can measure physical energy that way, but in tournaments, you can feel the energy in the venue and from other fencers so you can get it from there. | No doubt you believe in underpants gnomes as well.
The human body is a machine. It requires fuel in direct proportion to the amount of work it can accomplish. Floating "energy" in a room is not a source of fuel, and even if it were there's no transmission mechanism for ingesting it.
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For every yell, you might be "losing" some minute amount of physical energy, but you are creating so much mental energy, and you have to keep your mental energy very plentiful so using physical to help mental, now that's what I'm talking about! | There is no such thing as a separate "mental energy". The brain is a part of the body, and it works off the same p | |
