New to Fencing: AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

[FLASH GORDON]

please don't respond to this thread anymore just let it die.

[Neinteen]

wow you're rich.

you'll need a body cord and a lame, though I can't tell if you're foil or sabre since I think you got a sabre glove but you also got a foil.


so yeah.

[HDG]

Get a cup.
Get any anti-fog product.
Give me money.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by FLASH GORDON

Okay, so I am a newcomer to the sport of fencing. So far I have ordered...

What I have ordered:

list of lots of top end expensive stuff

What am I missing?

You're missing the thank you card signed by the Pauls.

You will need a cup. You'll need it sooner if you don't think you need one.
You'll also need a second foil, 2 body cords, and a lame for competitions.


Craig

[FLASH GORDON]

Originally Posted by Craig

You will need a cup.Craig

Is there a specific cup you would recommend? For example there are different cups designed for different sports....

[FLASH GORDON]

Originally Posted by Neinteen

you'll need a body cord and a lame

What's the body cord used for?...

What's the lame for?....do I need that right away or is it solely for competition

[FLASH GORDON]

Originally Posted by Craig

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You'll also need a second foil

As in another complete foil? or just another blade.

if I'm not mistaken I think once a blade breaks I can just swap out the old and put in the new

[jkdjeff]

For competitions, you need at least two each of weapon and body cord, present with you at the strip, incase one or the other fails.

The lame interacts with the scoring system, so if you're fencing dry early on, you don't need it. It's not a bad idea to get one now (if you have the budget, which it looks like you do), though, so that it's available as soon as you want to fence electric.

[fatfencer]

Judging by just how much money you spent and how completely noobish(no offense intended) you sound I'd say you've completely lost your mind.

Objectively speaking, there are many companies who have the same quality as LP without spending any where near that kind of money. Moreover, in terms of style, you will be hard pressed to find anyone in the TOP 32 foil who wears LP.

If it isn't too late I'd return the stuff for a full refund. PM me and I'll tell you who to contact about getting a premium FIE uniform, FIE mask and enough FIE weapons to arm a small vigilante group for what you spent...and you'll still have money left over....

Keep the shoes though. Good choice.

Fatfencer

[erooMynohtnA]

Originally Posted by fatfencer

Judging by just how much money you spent and how completely noobish(no offense intended) you sound I'd say you've completely lost your mind.

Objectively speaking, there are many companies who have the same quality as LP without spending any where near that kind of money. Moreover, in terms of style, you will be hard pressed to find anyone in the TOP 32 foil who wears LP.

If it isn't too late I'd return the stuff for a full refund. PM me and I'll tell you who to contact about getting a premium FIE uniform, FIE mask and enough FIE weapons to arm a small vigilante group for what you spent...and you'll still have money left over....

Keep the shoes though. Good choice.

Fatfencer

Yeah, and I bet you have some great real estate he can PM you about too.

No top athletes wear LP. Michael Jordan, Brett Favre, Tony Hawk, Randy Couture, Lance Armstrong, Bill Clinton, Stephen Hawking, Leonardo (the Ninja Turtle), the Letter C and the Number 2, I could go on. None of them has ever even competed against someone wearing LP gear.

[FLASH GORDON]

Originally Posted by fatfencer

Moreover, in terms of style, you will be hard pressed to find anyone in the TOP 32 foil who wears LP.

What do you mean by style? The way the clothes were designed or simply the name brand.

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by fatfencer

Objectively speaking, there are many companies who have the same quality as LP without spending any where near that kind of money.

Most people would disagree with that. Yes, LP is pricey, but you get very high quality gear for the money. Whether it's better or worse than Uhlmann or Allstar or Negrini is nowhere near as clear as you say it is.

[erooMynohtnA]

Originally Posted by FLASH GORDON

What do you mean by style? The way the clothes were designed or simply the name brand.

He means he has a grudge against LP because they wouldn't give him a discount on a jacket he wanted, and that he's mad about it because LP gear is really nice so he really liked it.

[SJCFU#2]

Do you do realize that you have probably spent the equivalent of an entire annual budget for a small collegiate club/team?

While I generally hold LP gear in the highest regard I do have to wonder why you would buy a visor mask. It isn't required unless you are planning on competing internationally and the lexan visor will have to be replaced every two years (the date of manufacture should be etched into the plastic somewhere near the edge). If I were you I would return that mask in exchange for a LP FIE X-Change 1600 Newton mask for foil and épée, then use the extra $180 to buy a superlight foil lame and a body cord (then spend more money to buy a second foil and body cord).

If you do keep the visor mask then I would also recommend buying one or more replacement outer visors so that you can replace them as they get scratched. Just be thankful that LP has a relatively inexpensive outer layer for their visors that can easily be replaced when it gets too scratched up - I guess the other manufacturers assume that the visor will have to be replaced due to age before it can accumulate too many scratches .

[C.I.C.]

Originally Posted by FLASH GORDON

Okay, so I am a newcomer to the sport of fencing. So far I have ordered...

What I have ordered:

1. LEON PAUL X-CHANGE vision 2000 mask
2. LEON PAUL Men's Sydney Range FIE 800N Jacket
3. LEON PAUL Men's Sydney Range FIE 800N Pants
4. LEON PAUL Men's FIE Plastron
5. LEON PAUL Electric Gloves 350N cuff & High density foam
6. Adidas Stabil 7 shoes
7. LEON PAUL FreeRunner Bag
8. LEON PAUL Custom Ordered FOIL with FIE BLADE
9. White Socks ( <--- Not Leon Paul)

What am I missing?

Like do I need cup or are my balls safe in this sport?

Is it necessary to buy a foil lame or no? ect....

Should I buy a anti-fog solution for the x-change vision mask or its good without that stuff?

Much appreciated.

What are you missing?? Perhaps common sense!

You say you're a newcomer to fencing, but you've just bought a kit appropriate for an experienced, successful international level fencer. A level, honestly, most fencers never achieve after years of fencing.

To accumulate this quality of equipment over time as your skills, experience and successes grow might be reasonable, but to spend this much at your beginner level is just ludicrous.

Whole thing smacks of "nouveau riche."

[FLASH GORDON]

Originally Posted by SJCFU#2

you do realize that you have probably spent the equivalent of an entire annual budget for a small collegiate club/team?

I understand. However, my father has always given me this advice with all things, ("you get what you pay for"). I have played a few different sports since childhood and have always used the best equipment. I have never experienced any serious injuries and I'm a pretty aggressive kid in w/e sport I play so using the finer equipment is almost a necessity for me. The items I have purchased may have costed more than the avg but I don't put a price on my safety.

I chose the x-change vision mask because of the things I've read about the increase in ones peripheral vision. Anything to give me a competitive edge over my opponent I'l do just as long as its legal :P I don't mind having to replace the lexan visor; its only 50 bucks.

[FLASH GORDON]

Originally Posted by C.I.C.

Whole thing smacks of "nouveau riche."

Damn, I'm being burned.

[Beloit Fencer of Old]

Flash-

LP stuff is great. I don't own any of it myself...I still have my old Uhlmann gear from 12 years ago

Don't worry about the style thing. I know lots of clubmates who use and love LP. In addition, my club uses LP masks almost exclusively.

In a post above, however, it was suggested that you should return the visor mask, get a regular FIE mask and spend the difference on additional weapons, body cords and a lame. I have to second this suggestion most emphatically. VERY FEW people you see will be using visor masks, and most people hate them. Plus, when the bib becomes target, you will probably want a new mask anyway. And the tactical advantage you get from not letting your opponent see your eyes may be as good as that you might gain with better peripheral vision. Actually, having fenced for 20 years, I cannot think of a single advantage in better peripheral vision .... hmmmm.

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by Beloit Fencer of Old

Actually, having fenced for 20 years, I cannot think of a single advantage in better peripheral vision .... hmmmm.

Cleavage

[larkmaj]

Originally Posted by Beloit Fencer of Old

Plus, when the bib becomes target, you will probably want a new mask anyway.

He got an xchange visor mask. I wouldn't be surpised if the good people at LP come out with a replacement bib that would satisfy the requirements so you don't have to buy a whole new extremely expensive mask. This foresight may have been one of the motivators in designing the mask the way they did.

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

Cleavage

Wouldn't this hurt your fencing and not help it? Although, I am enjoying that particular thread.