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Old 01-12-2008, 02:21 AM   #1
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My Mask Mesh has Rust on it...

As long as it passes a thorough mask-check I should be good to go, correct?

Should I probably consider buying a new mask REALLY soon??
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As long as it passes a thorough mask-check I should be good to go, correct?

Should I probably consider buying a new mask REALLY soon??
Yes. Probably sort of NOW-ish.

Really, if your mask has rust on it it's time to forward it to Mask Heaven and replace it. Trust me on this.
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If it's just surface rust, and it passes the punch test without any "give", it's okay. If the rust really has gotten into the wire, then it's time for a new one. It's usually pretty easy to tell if the wire is getting thin.

It's not uncommon to have surface rust. The paint gets chipped, the wire is steel, rust happens. If you take care of it, cleaning off the rust and touching up the paint, nothing bad will happen. If you ignore it, the obvious happens.
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As long as it passes a thorough mask-check I should be good to go, correct?

Should I probably consider buying a new mask REALLY soon??
Get something like rust converter to stabilize it. Just painting won't stop the rust from continuing underneath. I have used Rustoleum Rust Converter, which leaves a black finish. Use an artists brush and don't get any on the bib, it stains. A couple of coats wouldn't hurt.
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Yes. Probably sort of NOW-ish.

Really, if your mask has rust on it it's time to forward it to Mask Heaven and replace it. Trust me on this.
I am going to forward this comment to my teammate... especially since though that mask patches punch test (in theory), she once put her hand to her face to adjust it and the mesh dented. Eep.
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I am going to forward this comment to my teammate... especially since though that mask patches punch test (in theory), she once put her hand to her face to adjust it and the mesh dented. Eep.
Any mask that dents that easily should probably be replaced no matter what the rest of its condition is.
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Say, anyone know if you can take a tax deduction for old equipment donated to the club?
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Say, anyone know if you can take a tax deduction for old equipment donated to the club?
Are you serious?
How would you value 2nd hand equipment...

In any case, I always thought you were in Finland, in which case you might be better off contacting http://www.vero.fi for more accurate info.
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My old mask had surface rust. I checked it carefully, cleaned the rust and treated the surface and it lasted me nearly ten years.

Rust is not the end of your mask, you just have to determine the extent of the issue.
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If you donate a rusty mask to a club, you should be charged the insurance premuim for that month. I mean, c'mon. Beginners+Rusty mask=Liability.

That being said, I would assume that 1/2 market value for all good equipment donated is a reasonable tax deduction. Of course, I am no expert.
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Are you serious?
How would you value 2nd hand equipment...

In any case, I always thought you were in Finland, in which case you might be better off contacting http://www.vero.fi for more accurate info.
It's a Q of my mom's old fencing gear, now they are downsizing their house.

Don't even tell me about the Finnish tax system! Here in Finland, you don't even get a tax deduction for having dependents living with you, never mind stuff like donations. Everyone files separately, married or not. The tax form is two sinple pages, filled out by the tax authorities on your behalf. If you don't think they were accurate, you can discuss it with them, but basically, you pay what they tell you to pay, basta. The top tax rate is around 60%, and begins to apply at an income level of about $90,000 - but considering purchasing power parity, it's more like an income level of $60,000. Capital gains are taxable, capital losses are not deductible. Dividends are double-taxed after the sum equal to 9% of the value of your holding in the company. Guess it's clear why Finland tends to run a fairly balanced budget in spite of the free national health care and free university education, the decent roads and all the rest of the social net That, and Finland doesn't have a big military with lots of expensive high tech gear. Don't need one - it's hard to get into an armed difference of opinion with a country that simply sulks in silence when offended.
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[quote=InFerrumVeritas;653237]If you donate a rusty mask to a club, you should be charged the insurance premuim for that month. I mean, c'mon. Beginners+Rusty mask=Liability.
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Hadn't thought about that, but of course you're right. Maybe put it on the fencing dummy fbo the sabrists?

Was actually thinking of my mum's old gear. It's not rusty, it's just 20 years old. I suppose masks shouldn't deteriorate just from age, at least not in only 20 years....
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If you donate a rusty mask to a club, you should be charged the insurance premuim for that month. I mean, c'mon. Beginners+Rusty mask=Liability.
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Hadn't thought about that, but of course you're right. Maybe put it on the fencing dummy fbo the sabrists?

Was actually thinking of my mum's old gear. It's not rusty, it's just 20 years old. I suppose masks shouldn't deteriorate just from age, at least not in only 20 years....
Yeah, I figured you didn't mean a rusty mask, but I still felt it should be said. I know of several people who thought about donating old stuff to clubs. Gloves and jackets with holes, etc. I was appalled that people would give broken things away so that they could seem charitable.

If it's in good condition, then it is, of course, a different story.
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