12-30-2007, 11:19 AM
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#62 | | Fencing Expert
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Originally Posted by FencingKitten The USFA website has been updated with the information that we've had here on F.net for some time  Specifically, they've added the NC's selections as a Domestic News item, where they also assert that official notification to the membership is planned for January in accordance with the bylaws.
So, you know, go website being updated. |
The candidates all have to sign and return a written form, which was sent out yesterday. Until that happens it's quite reasonable for US Fencing not to send out the official notification.
Due date for those agreements to be returned is Jan. 5th (mine's already been faxed, with the original sitting in a mailbox for pick-up).
In addition to Greg and I, who both post here, at least a couple of the other nominated candidates lurk. I don't know how actively.
-B
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12-31-2007, 06:45 PM
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#63 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK I think it would be far more constructive to figure out why we would need a contested election before we select an election committee and have to draw up a format.
I am awaiting the NC report from the USFA secretary and I'll post it here as soon as I receive it. (It's being mailed) | I have received the report of the Nominating Committee from the USFA Secretary. I'll post an electronic copy here so that everyone can read it and spare Linda the trouble, distraction and expense of sending it to anyone interested.
I wasn't able to get it to upload on fencing.net so I had to put it on some personal space. http://www.firehead.org/~andrew/nomi...tteereport.pdf |
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12-31-2007, 07:28 PM
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#64 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by edew Kalle is the person usually at NACs handing you your DE slip back congratulating you for a good bout. You probably haven't seen enough of her, most likely.
Jerry is coach of Redlands Fencing Club in Oklahoma. Former mullet-haired guy, now Mr. Presidential candidate. Ro is coach of Twin Cities Fencing Club in Minnesota. Salt-and-pepper beard. Mark Stasinos fences in Utah, may be currently coaching there, certainly have coached in that area. Brad "oiuyt" is assistant coach at Temple, tall, gaunt guy who refs when he's not fencing (usually saber or epee, mostly saber). Greg Dilworth is shaped as his name implies. Patrician, old money-ish (whether he is or not is not the point). Top level referee and is now a member of the FOC. | Other bits of background:
Kale Weeks is an F5 and E6 referee.
Jerry Benson is an F2, E2, and S4 level referee, as well as a FOC certified Instructor & Examiner. Jerry is also a member of the USFCA and a former national officer.
Mark Stasinos is an F2, E3, and S4 level referee.
Brad Baker is an F3, E4, and S2 level referee, as well as a newly minted FIE level B in all three. Also a FOC certifed Instructor
Greg Dilworth is an F1, E2, and S3 level referee, as a FIE level B in Foil & Sabre, and a FOC certified Instructor & Examiner |
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12-31-2007, 11:49 PM
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#65 | | Member
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Originally Posted by jfarmer Other bits of background:
Kale Weeks is an F5 and E6 referee.
| Uh, no. Kalle is not the referee--that's her daughter Sarah.
Kalle has, however, been chair of the tournament committee for at least a couple of quads, and definitely knows tournaments inside and out.
(She's another of us parent-of-fencers types who end up still in fencing after our kids are on their own.)
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01-01-2008, 02:37 AM
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#66 | | Fencing Expert
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK I have received the report of the Nominating Committee from the USFA Secretary. I'll post an electronic copy here so that everyone can read it and spare Linda the trouble, distraction and expense of sending it to anyone interested.
I wasn't able to get it to upload on fencing.net so I had to put it on some personal space. http://www.firehead.org/~andrew/nomi...tteereport.pdf | BIG file for 6 pages of text (~10mb). At how many dpi did you scan it? And why? :)
Thanks for posting it.
-B
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01-01-2008, 06:30 AM
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#67 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by mgriff Uh, no. Kalle is not the referee--that's her daughter Sarah.
Kalle has, however, been chair of the tournament committee for at least a couple of quads, and definitely knows tournaments inside and out.
(She's another of us parent-of-fencers types who end up still in fencing after our kids are on their own.)
Mary | On the off chance that Kalle, once elected, has to interact with Swedish fencers she might be advised that "Kalle" is a name in Swedish also, but a male one. Might cause consternation.
Happy New Year!
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01-01-2008, 09:37 AM
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#68 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| Kalle has enough name complications without dragging Swedish into it.
oiuyt - I'll see if I can shrink it some. |
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01-13-2008, 11:38 AM
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#70 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK |
... and that contains even less useful information than the fencers for change website.
Just out of curiosity what are the alternatives to "process driven" governance?
I predict a low turnout followed by cynical complaints that the membership is indifferent.
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01-14-2008, 09:48 AM
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#71 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by keith Just out of curiosity what are the alternatives to "process driven" governance? | Object-oriented? Functional? Logic? Quote: |
I predict a low turnout followed by cynical complaints that the membership is indifferent.
| Duh. Actually, I suspect that if there is an election, the turnout will be high in comparison.
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01-14-2008, 10:46 AM
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#72 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by keith
... and that contains even less useful information than the fencers for change website.
Just out of curiosity what are the alternatives to "process driven" governance? | That is because the nominating committee's report is not a piece of campaign literature. It is a report detailing the actions of the nominating committee, and why we felt that the people that they nominated are appropriate for the positions that they were put forward, without excess space. In fact, we were criticized for the length of the document by some people!
And as an example, alternatives to process-driven governance would be governance/leadership that relies on personal charisma, a leadership style based on coercion and favor trading, a leadership style based upon Nepotism/Cronyism, or a leadership style based upon shouting down everyone else at meetings. As a member of the nominating committee, I'm fairly certain that the nominees we chose are committed to figuring out the best ways for the Association to proceed - not the ways to proceed that best benefit their specific interests. Nor are they likely to function utilizing the methods detailed above. The same could not be said of all of the candidates we interviewed and considered.
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01-14-2008, 04:18 PM
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#73 | | Senior Member
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| Dumb Question..... ...who gets to vote? Any member 18 and over as of the election date? Do members by virtue of the USFA Family Membership program get to vote as well?
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