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    Gardere Grip

    Out of curiosity, does anyone know why the Gardere Grip is illegal in USFA competitions? It looked like an interesting grip that I'd like to try, until I saw that it wouldn't be legal.

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    Thank you.

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    It's too bad, I like that grip

    I enjoy using the Gardere grip, unfortunately it is illegal to use in competitions. I don't see why they don't make the same grip with the back "trigger" cut off.

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    That my friend is what a hacksaw (or a dremel) and a file are for.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay83 View Post
    I enjoy using the Gardere grip, unfortunately it is illegal to use in competitions. I don't see why they don't make the same grip with the back "trigger" cut off.
    You'd have to cut ALL the prongs off to make it legal in the US.....and then what you' have would be basically a French grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer View Post
    You'd have to cut ALL the prongs off to make it legal in the US.....and then what you' have would be basically a French grip.
    And even if you did cut all the prongs off, there would likely be directors who wouldn't be confident enough to let you use it if it was challenged.

    Better to achieve the same thing by starting with a French grip and building it up a little.

    I know it would accomplish the same thing but very few people have confidence in these little-called for situations to be relied on to do the right thing. Easier for them to say no than yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay83 View Post
    I enjoy using the Gardere grip, unfortunately it is illegal to use in competitions. I don't see why they don't make the same grip with the back "trigger" cut off.
    If you cut off the rear prong wouldn't you be left with a standard spanish grip?

    Btw, the standard spanish is probably my favorite grip; a nice combination of the balance and finesse of a french with the security of a pistol grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer View Post
    You'd have to cut ALL the prongs off to make it legal in the US.....and then what you' have would be basically a French grip.
    What you could do is modify it to make it shorter and with an internal pommel. This would be difficult and you'd basically end up with a Beglian grip. But it would be legal for USFA competition.

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    Yey! Another thread about a completely useless grip!
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