Okay, here's my problem.
I recently got my size 40 LP Inox Foil Lame in the mail.
It fits perfectly in the shoulders but is too wide in the waist for my tastes.
I have big shoulders and a small waist.
Should I exchange it for a womens?
I feel a size down, 38, would be too small in the shoulders.
I don't really want to get the lame tailored because it could get ruined.
(I believe there used to be a thread on this, but I couldn't find it)
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Do you measure up correctly against the women's size chart? And remember, if the darts are dramatic, you're going to have boobs in the front. I guess it depends on the degree that it is tailored for a woman's body.
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When on strip just tell people you have large pectorals from weight lifting.Originally Posted by lefty_monster
Maybe Cookeit has the luscious curves of a women.
Post a pic Cookeit
Yea, I'm still a noob. Big WOOP. Wanna fight about it?
I already did, check here http://www.flickr.com/photos/21667329@N02/When on strip just tell people you have large pectorals from weight lifting.
Maybe Cookeit has the luscious curves of a women.
Post a pic Cookeit
One of those pics makes me look like I have a huge booty, which I don't really.
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I have a couple of students that use womens lames. I don't think they know they are womens lames, but they give them a better fit than other loaner lames in the closet. Use what works is my advice.
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I'm glad you got a haircut, but you don't need a woman's lame to accompany your new style.
Seriously, I've seen you in person. Do not get a women's lame. It will not fit you correctly. Just get a male one taken in if you're into that.
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Why not simply take a dart in on each side so it it fits more closely at the waist, but leave the fabric inside the fold intact? That way you can always let it out again if your waist starts to catch up with your shoulders.
Absolute accidentaly sent me a women's lame, I didnt realize this for several weeks untill someone noted it had the cut of a women's. It fits realy well ( i have similarly large shoulders small waist). I guess they are built for poorly endowed women because only when it scrunches up is it even remotely noticable that theres a little extra room in the chest. I've been wearing it for a while and it fits alot better than the one i had before. Granted you could accomplish the same thing by just getting one tailored and avoiding the stigma.
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I'm a girl that wears a men's jacket and lame, because the (available) women's ones are too small. Granted I'm at a slight disadvantage compared to women who have properly fitting jackets and lames, as theirs are more fitted against their bodies, I find no real problem in it. If it fits, it fits. *Shrug*
Last edited by Heavenguard; 12-14-2007 at 11:34 AM.
The tailoring you want is really very simple and should not damamge the lame. Just have them take it in along the existing side-seam. Leave the fabric in the seam allowance in case you need to let it out at some point.
Eat more. You'll fill out that new lame in no time.
Seriously, try on a woman's lame. If it fits better, go with that.
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Yes! This is the way to go - ALMOST!
Remember that the rules require YOUR target area to be covered by the lamé;
They say NOTHING about sizes, or tailoring alterations.
And SJC's post implies, correctly, that you can adjust the fit of the lamé without destructively altering the piece (unless the sewing machine gets out of control...).
If you are only competing at your high school & local division level events, where they are not checking lamés, you'll probably be fine.
I haven't learned, yet, what the policy will be at Midwest Sectionals...
My experience is that some armourers may balk at the sight of an altered lamé. Partly, it will depend on the nature of the alteration...
Generally speaking, while the armuorers will be looking at the pattern in the rule book, when they stamp it, it's still really up to the referee to ensure that your target is covered.
I have seen your pix, and understand what you are saying, and like SJC' ,I agree: you're young, and your situation may change somewhat quickly...
I offer a couple alternatives to his solution, though they MAY be a little more work (i.e. you'll need more than needle and thread, which is probably already in the house)
1. Get some Velcro, or like product; You could try the adhesive style, but after laundering, and aging, the adhesive could get pretty gummy...so I recommend old-fashioned stitch-on;
2. Stitch it on the INSIDE of the lamé; try to stitch it to the lining as much as possible. The idea is that there really shouldn't be any objections at the armourer's table, and the adjustment can be done on strip. Additionally this will allow the adjustment to be quickly, and easily adaptable*, if your size changes, as well, obviously, relaxable.
* Of course, the adjustment range will depend on the LENGTH of Velcro pieces you use, and the way you put them on...
This will probably leave you with one, or two, pinched folds, so, again, you'll want to think through the placement and orientation of the Velcro, so as to be gathering the excess material in the place least likely to be getting hit.
2. The other, similar idea is to sew a strap inside, across the back, with some sort of buckle, clasp, etc, (maybe get one off of old jacket cuissard (sp?)). This also offers the adjustability, and 'undo-ability', that will be good, and not take too much work, although, you might want to add in a bit of elastic to give a little (versus ripping the stitches).
You could even add in a couple of 'belt loops' to help keep it tucked in a bit more...
Good Luck!
I think I may keep the lame as is.
It will give me more incentive to workout :P.
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This specific solution i've actually heard some armorers question. I think the idea is that a blade might get caught through the lame on the catch created by the straps. Im not a hundred percent on this but it may not be allowed in competition.
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As for tailoring it make sure that it covers the hip bones and goes over the shoulder bones. Got caught on that at Temple last year.
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The suggested strap is on the inside of the lame. Straps on the outside are illegal.
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I was commenting on the inside ones, cause i thought that it still created a similar (though lesser) problem. Was wrong though, thanks for clarifying.
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I used to be a professional seamstress and I would reccomend buying a back zip lame and having a seamstress fit it by taking fabric off where the zipper is. If well done, nobody would ever know it was altered and I would dare say it would not affect the safety of the lame at all.
You look from your pics as though you have a fairly long torso, Cookeit... it's been my experience as a tall and moderately skinny woman that LP women's lame's are cut **extremely** short, so if you were to switch from a man's 40 to a women's 40, you'd probably find that it would no longer reach to the tops of your hipbones, not to mention that the groin strap might not even be long enough to reach back to the rear clip. I actually had to swap a women's LP for a men's in order to get the height I needed.
Actually I think I am going to order an Allstar Lame and then return whichever lame I don't like the fit of.
It seems their "taller sizes" have smaller waists.
Also I have heard that Allstar lames have a tighter fit, this true?
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