12-13-2007, 01:49 PM
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| No, I wouldn't think so. That was pretty much my point. Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingate85  FYI NO single academically viable fencer has ever turned down Harvard for Notre Dame. | | 
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12-13-2007, 02:11 PM
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| A middle class income is 120-180,000/yr?
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12-13-2007, 02:19 PM
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| Athletic Scholarship
I think that the real difference in money issues between going to a Penn State/Notre Dame/Ohio State is that there is a chance to get out of college without much debt if you are a good enough athlete to get a scholarship. If you are accepted to an Ivy, although admission is needs blind, the package created may well have loans and work study obligations. | |
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12-13-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by seven6ty A middle class income is 120-180,000/yr? | It's reasonable to describe someone making $60,000 as middle class. They certainly aren't upper-class. Have a household of 2 of them and it's not really all that big a deal to hit $120,000. | 
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12-13-2007, 02:48 PM
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| Yeah, I didn't think about the whole two person income thing until after I posted that. Heh, I obviously am stuck in a permanent state of bachelorhood.
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12-13-2007, 03:00 PM
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States
Lists lots of stats re: household incomes.
The top quintile starts at $88k (2004 figure). Median household income is ~$48k (2006 figure). The 95th percentile, at $154k (2004 figure) is right around the middle of the range discussed in the article.
It's a small minority of the population that falls into Harvard's new "middle-class" assistance program. And rather questionable whether ANY of them are middle-class.
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12-13-2007, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt It's a small minority of the population that falls into Harvard's new "middle-class" assistance program. And rather questionable whether ANY of them are middle-class.
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clearly you didn't get the memo that America has neither an upper nor a working class; it is the paradise of the Bourgeoisie.
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12-13-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States
Lists lots of stats re: household incomes.
The top quintile starts at $88k (2004 figure). Median household income is ~$48k (2006 figure). The 95th percentile, at $154k (2004 figure) is right around the middle of the range discussed in the article.
It's a small minority of the population that falls into Harvard's new "middle-class" assistance program. And rather questionable whether ANY of them are middle-class.
-B | They already have some great packages for lower ones. Friend of mine goes to Yale for free because his family doesn't make enough cash. If you get into an Ivy League, they want you to go and won't accept "well, not enough moneys" as an excuse. Duke and Vandy are similar, although both of those places are usually for the rich kids who couldn't get into the Ivy. | |
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12-13-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK It's reasonable to describe someone making $60,000 as middle class. They certainly aren't upper-class. Have a household of 2 of them and it's not really all that big a deal to hit $120,000. | It's a pretty big deal for over 90% of American households.
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12-13-2007, 06:09 PM
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| One thing that these stats aren't including is cost of living. $50,000 in the south might go further then 100k in NYC.
Just coming from growing up in a middle to upper middle class neighborhood in Baltimore average combined household income was definitely closer to 120k then 50-60K, and while not poor or working class, these folks were not rich, and could not have afforded Harvard's tuition without some loans, 2nd mortgages etc.
While 180k may be a bit high, I would consider 120k middle -upper middle class depending on the area. | |
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| To go back to the original post. Duke did land a huge recruit, possibly the biggest recruit available in this year's graduating class. | |
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Originally Posted by mytouch2003 To go back to the original post. Duke did land a huge recruit, possibly the biggest recruit available in this year's graduating class. | Assume you mean the high school class of 2008?
Which weapon? Which gender? 
Looking the the USFA Senior rolling points, I'd guess men's foil or women's sabre.
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12-14-2007, 12:44 AM
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| Guys..... the people who know, know. The people who don't know will sure as hell find out when it becomes more public-ish if it's something they care about at all......
Can we please stop playing the "I know something you don't know" game?
It's kind of ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by bunbury They already have some great packages for lower ones. Friend of mine goes to Yale for free because his family doesn't make enough cash. If you get into an Ivy League, they want you to go and won't accept "well, not enough moneys" as an excuse. Duke and Vandy are similar, although both of those places are usually for the rich kids who couldn't get into the Ivy. | The Ivys are not for everyone! Some people prefer a smaller college.
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12-14-2007, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mytouch2003 To go back to the original post. Duke did land a huge recruit, possibly the biggest recruit available in this year's graduating class. | Agreed! You just don't land up every year a triple world champion in any sport. I did postgraduate school there, and being a Duke MBB nut and I am most happy of her decision. Go Blue Devils!
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12-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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| All I know is, our 529 has a program which lets you pick any school and then calculate projected college costs. Every time I use it, I get an upset stomach. Congratulations to those kids that, through their success, earn scholarships so that their parents can take that 529 money, capital gains be damned, and squander it on themselves. Maybe buy a small island.
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12-14-2007, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rustica | How is that possible? I thought: Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingate85 FYI NO single academically viable fencer has ever turned down Harvard for Notre Dame. | :)
Anyone think Gerek couldn't get into Harvard if that's where he'd prefer to go?
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12-14-2007, 07:35 PM
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| No Brad he couldn't. Quote:
Originally Posted by oiuyt How is that possible? I thought: 
Anyone think Gerek couldn't get into Harvard if that's where he'd prefer to go?
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12-14-2007, 09:22 PM
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| I believe it's Miss Ward
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Originally Posted by C.I.C. Assume you mean the high school class of 2008?
Which weapon? Which gender?
Looking the the USFA Senior rolling points, I'd guess men's foil or women's sabre. | Rebecca Ward has been seen around in a Duke sweatshirt...... | |
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