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[Got_Fenced_In]

Eh, I did this a while back. Got a cute little whippet. But now I refuse to pay 8 bucks to see this movie..

[swordwench]

Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

Eh, I did this a while back. Got a cute little whippet. But now I refuse to pay 8 bucks to see this movie..

Just because they called you a whippet?

They're just using YOUR responses, you know.

[Got_Fenced_In]

No, because of the crazy man that wrote it. (I like dogs 9_9) Jeez, you don't know this? Look it up. Read. Or, no, I'll post a link for you: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp


NOT VERY CHRISTMASSY OF HIM. If you want to be atheist, that's fine and dandy. But who the hell said it was his place to plant things in children's heads? Like I said, NOT Christmassy.. He's just jealous because we have a better holiday than any atheist does.

[swordwench]

Oooh, touchy, touchy, aren't we? I was simply following the logic of "I got a cute little whippet" followed immediately by "now I refuse to see this movie." Perhaps I should have put a or a there?

[Got_Fenced_In]

No, I'm not touchy. I could care less what other people do. But I don't really want to see this anymore.

The whippet was cute, though.

[swordwench]

Know what? This thread got me thinking. Got my Irish up, too.

I wouldn’t boycott a book or movie simply because its creator had a different religious stance than I. I’m open-minded, and I do read. In fact, I’m looking forward to seeing this (as I’ve looked forward to reading the trilogy, but never found the time).

But when my small kids ask if THEY can see the movie? No. Not yet. It’s not appropriate for their age and developmental stage, despite how cool the commercials are - and I don’t give a rat’s patootie that their classmates are going to see it. They’re also not allowed to watch any of the Harry Potter movies beyond the first one, because the later books/movies get progressively darker, scarier, and more complicated – and they’re NOT READY for that. They know the Narnia tales, and have seen the movie – but they don’t see a connection between Christianity and the stories, because it’s not something we discuss in our house. They see an epic battle between good and evil, not a willing sacrifice on the altar. As their parent, it’s my job to monitor what they watch and read, until I feel they are old enough to decide for themselves. I will guide them – but I will not dictate what they must believe.

Now, that said, I’m not going to be dragging them into any house of organized religion anytime soon. When they’re old enough to decide for themselves what makes sense from a religious point of view, they’ll be free to make that decision. What I can and DO do, however, is expose them to the basic tenets of a number of religions, and explain that different people and different cultures can believe different things – and ALL ARE VALID. More importantly, I can help them understand the difference between good and bad, right and wrong WITHOUT HAVING TO ENTER A CHURCH (or synagogue, or mosque, or temple…) Why? Because I truly believe that the underlying ideas of every religion are the same. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Be good to all. Don’t do hurtful stuff. Leave the God parts out, and they’re all the same.

OK, sorry - I've said my part about parental responsibility. Back to your Daemon thread.

[Got_Fenced_In]

Oh, no, I'm not doing it to boycott it like those people, or for the same reasons. That's just silly. I just think it's sounds sort of weird, is all. I'm like you-- I'm not from any one religion. (Though I do celebrate christmas.) I have my own views, and I have many, many friends from different religious backgrounds, some even atheist.

I just don't support the idea of bashing other peoples' views and ideas. Do you know what I mean? I don't know of any other way to put it.

[latenight]

Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

No, because of the crazy man that wrote it. (I like dogs 9_9) Jeez, you don't know this? Look it up. Read. Or, no, I'll post a link for you: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp


NOT VERY CHRISTMASSY OF HIM. If you want to be atheist, that's fine and dandy. But who the hell said it was his place to plant things in children's heads? Like I said, NOT Christmassy.. He's just jealous because we have a better holiday than any atheist does.

I saw an interview with him recently. The main issue he raised with CS Lewis was his portrayal of women's roles in the Narnia books. I agree with him there <shrug>

As far as "who the hell said it was his place to plant things in children's heads?", that can be said of any organized religion as well. You need to learn some tolerance of people who think differently than you.

[Shi no Tenshi]

Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

No, because of the crazy man that wrote it. (I like dogs 9_9) Jeez, you don't know this? Look it up. Read. Or, no, I'll post a link for you: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp


NOT VERY CHRISTMASSY OF HIM. If you want to be atheist, that's fine and dandy. But who the hell said it was his place to plant things in children's heads? Like I said, NOT Christmassy.. He's just jealous because we have a better holiday than any atheist does.

From what I have read elsewhere, the movie took out pretty much any religious overtones. If you are not watching it on a religious basis...well, you are not watching it for the wrong reasons.

[Got_Fenced_In]

I have plenty of tolerence. I think it's no one's place. You should be able to decide on your own, not because of your parents or anyone else, including him.

Look, the main reason I dislike him is because he bashes other people over their religions. It is not because he's an atheist, or because he dislikes CS Lewis, or because of anything else. I just don't think it's right to tell other people, 'Your views are stupid and wrong'. Which is why I really don't want to see the movie or read the books. It's not HIS personal views on religion; it's his stance on everyone else's I don't like. Make sense?

The whole Christmassy spiel was a bit of a joke. I'm sorry sarcasm doesn't come across too well over things like this, but it was. (Like I said, my family does celebrate it, but I'm not going to go around telling anyone else they have to or should.) Now, I've stated my opinion, and that's all I can do. I don't want to start arguments over this, or anything else. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[Got_Fenced_In]

Originally Posted by Shi no Tenshi

From what I have read elsewhere, the movie took out pretty much any religious overtones. If you are not watching it on a religious basis...well, you are not watching it for the wrong reasons.

That's true, I guess.

You always seem to be very logical. I like this about you. Are you always that way, or only on here?

[Got_Fenced_In]

Now, anyway, I'm done with this discussion. I don't want to stay here bickering about this, when really we all have opinions that are fairly close. I'm leaving it at that. I like you guys on FNet. I don't want 'enemies'.

[latenight]

Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

Now, anyway, I'm done with this discussion. I don't want to stay here bickering about this, when really we all have opinions that are fairly close. I'm leaving it at that. I like you guys on FNet. I don't want 'enemies'.

No worries. Healthy debate should never include becoming "enemies".

[Got_Fenced_In]

Haha, very true. I was just afraid I might offend something by something I said, when really I was only trying to show my opinion.

Anyway, back to characters. Anyone else received a whippet?

[Nicksmom]

My kids asked if they could see it and I said "No". (for the same reasons that SW mentioned). Rachel then said, "I'll call Fr. Farrell and see what he says. You know mom, the catholic church used to be the ones that rated movies." I had to reminder her that she was grounded from the phone. But, can't you just see the old priest's face when this little girl askes if she can see 'Golden Compass'. Or better yet, the look on the kids face when he says NO
Sorry, I get off on tangents

[Sabresque]

I got Elleron the raccoon. Its says I'm modest, assertive, competitive and fickle. Hahahaha actually that's really true. scary. .... but a RACCOON???? I think Lord Asriel's snow leapord is the coolest thing EVER

On the subject of the books... I read them around adolescence and I absolutely loved them. I still believe in God, and don't want to kill him... thats silly.

When someone first said that to me, I laughed... I didn't even remember that the Magestirium was religious. I just saw it as an amazing fantastical epic.

[TBean]

It says I am modest, inquisitive, assertive, spontaneous and humble - fascinating assortment of traits. My daemon is Pereus, the chimp.

[HDG]

Theomilla the Crow:
Modest, responsible, solitary, shy and proud.

[HDG]

Originally Posted by Nicksmom

My kids asked if they could see it and I said "No". (for the same reasons that SW mentioned). Rachel then said, "I'll call Fr. Farrell and see what he says. You know mom, the catholic church used to be the ones that rated movies." I had to reminder her that she was grounded from the phone. But, can't you just see the old priest's face when this little girl askes if she can see 'Golden Compass'. Or better yet, the look on the kids face when he says NO
Sorry, I get off on tangents

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops doesn't seem to exercised about the content of the film. According to AP:

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops however has been more nuanced in its approach warning in a review of "The Golden Compass" of its "anti-clerical subtext, standard genre occult elements, character born out of wedlock, a whiskey-guzzling bear."

But it adds that "taken purely on its own cinematic terms, (it) can be viewed as an exciting adventure story with a traditional struggle between good and evil, and a generalized rejection of authoritarianism."