Names on the back of the jackets

[slosher]

Hey there,

I was wondering how we could put the names on the back of my jacket (for epee) and the lame?

[JXMeehan]

Any permanent blue paintor marker will be ok for your jacket. The lame paint needs to not interfere with the conductivity. Marx Enterprises does it at national tournaments. Where are you? There is probably someone near you. Iron-ons and sew ons are also an option.

[Purple Fencer]

[quote]Originally posted by slosher:
<strong>Hey there,

I was wondering how we could put the names on the back of my jacket (for epee) and the lame?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Go to <a href="http://www.socalfence.org" target="_blank">www.socalfence.org</a> There's a link on the front page about getting your name on your uni. It has the Marx's info.

[D'Artagnan1673]

Hey Sam,

That long discussion on tournaments that you wrote, I read that almost a year ago. That is a long time before I got on this site. There must be some link between the Southern Cal site and The Fencing Post.

Cool to have read something and later "met" that author.

[neevel]

Fabric dye pens are the best choice for DIY lame printing-- they'll permanently dye the backing fabric but won't adhere to the metal at all. Any fabric or crafts store should have them (though be sure to specify fabric _dye_, not fabric paint). You can use permanent marker to write on a lame so long as you rub it down with a scotch-brite pad afterwards to clean the metal strands.

I've made my own stencils by printing out the name from a computer in large font (you may need to use a drawing program to make letters large enough, instead of a word processor), and then using that as a template to cut the lettering into adhesive-backed plastic sheets.

-Dave

[Purple Fencer]

[quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>Hey Sam,

That long discussion on tournaments that you wrote, I read that almost a year ago. That is a long time before I got on this site. There must be some link between the Southern Cal site and The Fencing Post.

Cool to have read something and later "met" that author.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He he he!!! Yeah, I wrote that initially as a guide for myself each September when I give a clinic to those going into comp for the first time. Ended up saving my hide a lot of times...and I've gotton quite a number of compliments off it. I update it as need be.

There IS a link from the SoCal site to The Fencing Post...it's in the links section...along with a bunch of other vendors -- including me!

There will be a new vendor added as soon as Jr. D'Asaro gets his site completed. He's going as The Fencing Dude.

[D'Artagnan1673]

Well I really like it. I had only gone to one tournament before then. It was nice to read and learn some of the more subtle things that I didn't understand at the tournament itself.

I especially like your maxims at the bottom. The one I think of the most is the park about not getting so mad at yourself that you start really loosing. That was always my problem in tennis, and I see it reapper when I fence at tournaments. In the salle', I am fine. Whether I win or loose is no big deal. Once I am going my glory and honor, I really start to tense up.

[engardemisami]

Hey Neevel! I saw you at the Midwest Sects last Saturday and was impressed by the font on your lame. So you did do that yourself? Nice job!
Ernie

[neevel]

[quote]Originally posted by engardemisami:
<strong>Hey Neevel! I saw you at the Midwest Sects last Saturday and was impressed by the font on your lame. So you did do that yourself? Nice job!
Ernie</strong><hr></blockquote>

Heh- another B5 fan, eh? Glad at least that impressed someone-- my back leg's still not back up to speed from my knee injury (the knee feels OK, but the muscle strength and stamina aren't there), so my fencing wasn't very impressive. I would've at least liked to have gone far enough to have gotten blown out by Peter Habala (would've had to get past Cosmo Krotcov for that though-- I beat him 5-4 in the pools, but given my current shape I'm not sure I could take him in a DE bout).

-Dave

[engardemisami]

Krotcov smoked me 15-4 in the DE, but then again, I am not even rated but it was a great experience. Well you did not answer the question, did you do that lame yourself? What font? it looked like Star Trek Enterprise font. I am thinking I can do it too. I have a different font in mind.

[D'Artagnan1673]

I thought that regulations said you had to use block font. If not, I could have some fun with fonts

[Purple Fencer]

[quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>I thought that regulations said you had to use block font. If not, I could have some fun with fonts </strong><hr></blockquote>

At my first NAC (Palm Springs '98?) Zaddick Loganbach's name could barely be read...rally strange font.

[achilleus]

[quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>I thought that regulations said you had to use block font. If not, I could have some fun with fonts </strong><hr></blockquote>

Just as in all aspects of fencing (and life), there are rules that are enforced and rules that no one pays attention to...

[neevel]

Yes, I did it myself. From a rules-nitpicking standpoint, the font (called 'Serpentine', and used for the credits on Babylon 5), is fine-- it's still a block font, though it does have serifs. There would technically be an issue with the one I did in that the lettering is a bit smaller than the 8 cm minimum. As Achilleus noted, the only place you'd conceivably have a problem with that would be World Champonships (and even then, they might let it slide). For US competitions, just writing it on with a sharpie would be let by.

-Dave

[lochinvar]

Dave, I have been all through the rule book and I can find no reference to a minimum size of lettering nor to a required font or type of lettering.

"In all three weapons, each fencer's last name must be printed legibly by hand
or machine in dark blue capital letters not more than 10 cm high: either (1)
on the back of the uniform or lame between the shoulders; (2) on the front or
side of the thigh of the "rear" leg; or (3) on a piece of fabric or lame material
that is firmly sewn to the uniform in such a way that it will not detach during
fencing or catch the opponent's point. Fabric attached to the uniform must be
the same color as the part of the uniform to which it is attached. Conductive
materials must be attached in such a way as to not alter the conductivity of the
metallic vest or jacket. NAMES PRINTED ON TAPE ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE." boldface added

(USFA Note, p. 18)

"Nevertheless, on condition that fencers precisely observe the regulations relating
to electrical material and the equipment of fencers, they must display their name
and their nationality, written in dark blue capital letters no more than 10 cm high,
on the back, or on the front of the thigh on the side of the non-sword arm." boldface added

(p. 135)

So far as I can see, the requirements are three:
1) Dark blue.
2) Capital letters.
3) No more than 10 cm high.

(Beyond this, deponent sayeth not...)

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[KShan5[PrFC]]

You could get it done at a large competetion for about $20. Or you could go to tee-shirt land and get it done for like $5 plus say 30cents a letter.

[engardemisami]

WARNING! Do NOT use that 30 cent per letter vinyl stuff on your lame! Knickers or regular jackets are ok.

[Inquartata]

[quote]Originally posted by achilleus:
<strong>

Just as in all aspects of fencing (and life), there are rules that are enforced and rules that no one pays attention to...</strong><hr></blockquote>

And some that people only pay attention to if you're not an 'elite' fencer.

I have yet to be at a Div I NAC where there wasn't either

(a) An elite fencer wearing a lame with someone else's name on it ( i.e. a teammate's )

(b) An elite fencer with his name hastily scrawled on tape and stuck on back or leg

(c) An elite fencer showing no name whatsoever.

If the airlines loses your bag or you forget your lame, exceptions are often made. As long as you're not Joe Recreational Fencer.

Yes, I'm in a querulous mood tonight.

[neevel]

From the FIE Regelment online at the FIE website:

A condition que cela ne constitue pas une publicité, les tireurs doivent porter leur
nom et leur nationalité écrits en lettres capitales et de couleur bleu marine sur le
dos de la veste. La hauteur des lettres sera de 10 cm maximum et 8 cm minimum.

The reference to the minimum size for some reason didn't make it into the U.S. version of the rules.

-Dave

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[veeco]

that's kinda tough. What if someone has like a really really long name and very narrow shoulders and a short leg??? ;-).

They have to be able to use smaller letters to fit their whole name on their jacket!

Seriously though, here in the bay area we have some kids who have really long names (there from Iran I think) and they have to have their name on their leg because there's not enough space on their back. And even then, their name covers like the _whole_ leg.

They're pretty cute though.