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Old 11-19-2007, 10:50 PM   #261
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Am I a pedant? Why I use the word "Foto"

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My French Maitre d'Armes have used that term a lot, and so have my Ukrainian ones.

Oh, and by the way, it's quite common even for French speakers not to use the accents when they are typing on an English keyboard. Such as what I am doing now.
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Thanks for reping bigdawg2121... whatever "reping" involves... and thanks for teaching me the
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And if you want to be pedantic, "Recipe" isn't a French term, and Photos isn't spelled "fotos", neither in English, nor in French.

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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...earchmode=none
"recipe
1584, "medical prescription," from M.Fr. récipé, from L. recipe "take!," imperative of recipere "to take" (see receive); word written by physicians at the head of prescriptions. Meaning "instructions for preparing food" first recorded 1743. The original sense survives only in the pharmacist's abbreviation Rx.
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If you go to my website, there's an explanation of why I use the word "foto"
but to save the rest the trouble here are my explanations:

Foto: I use this as my tribute to Leonardo da Vinci, who arguably recorded the use of the "camera obscura", the pin-hole camera, though some contend that the camera obscura predates Leonardo to the first millennium.


Besides, do you know how many times i write the word "foto" or "fotos"? Every time I save one keystroke...

So, you're right in both case but also wrong...

I use Firefox. When one places a cursor over a word with a "hint" built into it, when one's cursor is on the word "Photo", guess what words drop down?

"Photo: foto".

If you don't believe me try it on the "Photo gallery" on this web site:
http://www.fencing.net/gallery/

2006 Photo Contest

I hate to use it, but I have to say "Touché!!!"

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Old 11-20-2007, 02:52 PM   #262
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'rep"

In Urban dictionary there are 13 entries for "rep"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rep

rep |sound |hood |city |booster |gang |ghetto |house of reps |killer |rep booster| reps |set |town

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1. rep
176 up, 17 down


1. Represent.
2. Reputation.

1. "I be repping Brick City muh-****as."
2. "That fool has a bad rep."
by Diego Aug 31, 2003 email it

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10. rep
5 up, 16 down


verb. the act of fornicating with any woman who is up to letting you tell everyone you just "repped" her.

Jordan says: I'm gonna get hype, poke around here and there, and "rep" some *****es! Chea!
by tonygindahouse Dec 20, 2004 email it

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11. rep
6 up, 18 down


In the online game Subspace (aka Continuum): A repel.

I was under attack and fired off all my repels.
by MonteZuma Aug 26, 2004 email it

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13. REP
2 up, 25 down


REP iz as same as tha word RAP, sounds
like the same, Gst different "spelling"

its time fo` me to rep this place ...
by saywhaaat Dec 11, 2003 email it

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"recipe
1584, "medical prescription," from M.Fr. récipé, from L. recipe "take!," imperative of recipere "to take" (see receive); word written by physicians at the head of prescriptions. Meaning "instructions for preparing food" first recorded 1743. The original sense survives only in the pharmacist's abbreviation Rx."
M.Fr. here stands for, I presume, Medieval French. Like some would say "Old English". That word has been absent of the French language for centuries, it is in no modern French dictionary. Being pedantic means you have to be right to the nth degree, and not just half-right. If you had said that the word came from French, then you would have been correct. But you said "it is a French word", which was incorrect, or wrong.

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If you go to my website, there's an explanation of why I use the word "foto"
but to save the rest the trouble here are my explanations:

Foto: I use this as my tribute to Leonardo da Vinci, who arguably recorded the use of the "camera obscura", the pin-hole camera, though some contend that the camera obscura predates Leonardo to the first millennium.


Besides, do you know how many times i write the word "foto" or "fotos"? Every time I save one keystroke...
That's a lovely explanation, but that doesn't make your spelling of the word the correct one. It is an incorrect spelling, which makes it wrong.

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So, you're right in both case but also wrong...
Er, no, I am right, and I am right. And you're wrong, and you're wrong.
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Er, no, I am right, and I am right. And you're wrong, and you're wrong.
D'oh! Are we being a bit English/French egocentric or chauvinistic here?

There ARE other European languages other than English and French from the Latin/Sanskrit source:
Foto is an Italian as well as a Portuguese word.

Somewhere I've mentioned that if you use Firefox, and put your cursor over the "Photo Gallery" link in this web site, you'll see "Photo | Foto"

Further evidence:
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http://www.wordreference.com/enit/Photograph
photograph:
photograph v fotografare ⇒
Compound Forms/Forme composte:
aerial photograph | fotografia aerea
photograph album | album fotografico

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http://lookwayup.com/lwu.exe/lwu/d?h...graph&lang=Por

Definition of
1. [n] a picture of a person or scene in the form of a print or transparent slide; recorded by a camera on light-sensitive material. Sentences More...
em português:foto
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Und auf Deutsch, mein Freund,
colour photograph -- das Farbfoto
photograph -- die Fotografie
photography -- die Fotografie

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Thanks for making me look up the Portuguese word for foto...
I won't even mention the Chinese word which I don't have to look up.

The most important point is this, in this forum we use RoW, CaC, MdA, PiL, etc... so why can't you accept that I use "foto", afterall, the English language is full of foreign words that became part of the English vocabulary. Bungalow, veranda, etc. It's just like the British Army's ration is no longer beef and potatoes, it's now curry chicken...

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D'oh! Are we being a bit English/French egocentric or chauvinistic here?

There ARE other European languages other than English and French from the Latin/Sanskrit source:
Foto is an Italian as well as a Portuguese word.
Troll...

My statement, which was directed to you, was:

"Foto is neither an English word, nor is it a French word." No mention of Portuguese or Italian was made. Since your website is in English, and you are pedantic to the point to require accents on French or Medieval French words, it should use the proper English spelling of the word.

A nice sidestepping of the issue, but in any case, this has gone long enough and is completely unrelated to the new Arbitrage DVD being put out.

Feel free to open an etymological thread in the water cooler if you want discuss those fine points further.
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