The Official Nike Shoes Thread

[Nolano]

Any word on how wide these are, compared to the Adidas? I've heard that the Adidas's are quite narrow, and I have very wide(4E) feet.

[davesaint]

Craig,

Are you going to be at the Rosemont NAC, and are you going to bring the Nike shoe as well?


Dave

[Roman Red]

I think that the one of the guys on LP USA's homepage is wearing a pair of red and white ones. He's the one closest to the front.

RR

[JMcC]

Originally Posted by Nolano

Any word on how wide these are, compared to the Adidas? I've heard that the Adidas's are quite narrow, and I have very wide(4E) feet.

Almost completely unrelated, but...

I stumbled on a documentary on the German English-language TV network (that some cable/satellite systems carry). The show was a well told story about the two German shoe manufacturers: Adidas and Puma.
Turns out they were run by brothers who basically ended up enemies.
But the one thing that surprised me most, is that I - and anyone I've ever heard here in the U.S. - is mispronouncing the word/name "Adidas".
It's not ahh-DEE-dahss, it's ahh-dee-DAHSS.
The Germans must cringe every time they hear us mispronounce it.

[FoilyDeath]

Originally Posted by JMcC

Almost completely unrelated, but...

I stumbled on a documentary on the German English-language TV network (that some cable/satellite systems carry). The show was a well told story about the two German shoe manufacturers: Adidas and Puma.
Turns out they were run by brothers who basically ended up enemies.
But the one thing that surprised me most, is that I - and anyone I've ever heard here in the U.S. - is mispronouncing the word/name "Adidas".
It's not ahh-DEE-dahss, it's ahh-dee-DAHSS.
The Germans must cringe every time they hear us mispronounce it.

Trust me, its not just the germans :P

[Beloit Fencer of Old]

Originally Posted by JMcC

Almost completely unrelated, but...

I stumbled on a documentary on the German English-language TV network (that some cable/satellite systems carry). The show was a well told story about the two German shoe manufacturers: Adidas and Puma.
Turns out they were run by brothers who basically ended up enemies.
But the one thing that surprised me most, is that I - and anyone I've ever heard here in the U.S. - is mispronouncing the word/name "Adidas".
It's not ahh-DEE-dahss, it's ahh-dee-DAHSS.
The Germans must cringe every time they hear us mispronounce it.

I think that many, if not most of us, have heard that the proper pronunciation is the second one. We're probably not going to use it, however, just like how we all mispronounce "Porsche" and the real nickname for a BMW.

Also, I suspect that if they DO cringe, it's with a little smile on the way to the bank.

[Empty Wallet]

I feel a real Fred and Ginger moment coming along:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3fjQa5Hls

Of course there are plenty of others such as: Mercedes -- merSAYdees/merSEEdees


Oh well, the pay the kiddies in some lands far away 3 cents a year and charges us lots

[FoilyDeath]

Originally Posted by Roman Red

I think that the one of the guys on LP USA's homepage is wearing a pair of red and white ones. He's the one closest to the front.

RR

Ooh nice find. Seems the guy at the back/right is wearing red and black ones too. Not particularly useful, but cool colour schemes:P

[piste off]

Originally Posted by JMcC

Almost completely unrelated, but...

I stumbled on a documentary on the German English-language TV network (that some cable/satellite systems carry). The show was a well told story about the two German shoe manufacturers: Adidas and Puma.
Turns out they were run by brothers who basically ended up enemies.
But the one thing that surprised me most, is that I - and anyone I've ever heard here in the U.S. - is mispronouncing the word/name "Adidas".
It's not ahh-DEE-dahss, it's ahh-dee-DAHSS.
The Germans must cringe every time they hear us mispronounce it.

I thought it was derived from the guy's name: Adi Dassler as I recall. His brother was a half brother named Joe Puma (OK I just made that s*** up, but the Adidas thing is true).

Rick

[erooMynohtnA]

Here are some pictures Craig posted on the fencing.net facebook group.

[Alex_Paul]

First impressions:

They are as several people have said light but suprisingly not as light as they appear... USA size 9:
Dart II 258g
Adistar 283g
Ballestra 296g
Scimitar 348g

They are half way between the hi tec and adidas for width

They have a similar wrapped up insole to the hi tec but there is less protection. It will be interesting to see how the location of this area works out.

They have a fixed insole, it's stitched in so it can't be replaced. It does wrap around the sides of your foot nicely.

The tongue is the same mesh/foam as the majority of the upper and wraps around the sides of the foot.

They have a thinner sole than hi-tec but thicker than dartagnan.

There are three colourways: white and light blue, bright blue and yellow and grey and orange.

[oso97]

Originally Posted by Alex_Paul

They have a fixed insole, it's stitched in so it can't be replaced. It does wrap around the sides of your foot nicely.

That is going to be a deal breaker for most of the fencers in my club. They wear out the insole way before the rest of the shoe, and like the option of replacing it without replacing the entire shoe, and getting another couple of months of use.

[DangerMouse]

And yet, a good thing for me. I usually have to glue down the insoles in new fencing shoes to keep them from shifting.

[Timberwolf_CY]

It shouldn't be too surprising they have the insole sewed in, they, according to normal business logic, should sell more shoes that way...

[academe]

Originally Posted by oso97

That is going to be a deal breaker for most of the fencers in my club. They wear out the insole way before the rest of the shoe, and like the option of replacing it without replacing the entire shoe, and getting another couple of months of use.

I wouldn't think so as it is not like a traditional insole. Most insoles in fencing shoes wear out because they move too much in the shoes. Layers peel, get bunched up, or the foam gets broken apart. The idea behind this design is actually based on feedback from fencers that traditional insole designs tend to be a problem as they get destroyed quickly.

[sir alasdair]

On the 2007 world championships DVD for Foil, the Chinese fencer LEI appears to be wearing these or one of the prototypes in his bout with Baldini.

[erooMynohtnA]

Originally Posted by sir alasdair

On the 2007 world championships DVD for Foil, the Chinese fencer LEI appears to be wearing these or one of the prototypes in his bout with Baldini.

I'm not sure. Maybe there's a higher resolution picture of it.

Ah, I found one. The Official Nike Shoes Thread

[Blakeian]

Originally Posted by oso97

That is going to be a deal breaker for most of the fencers in my club. They wear out the insole way before the rest of the shoe, and like the option of replacing it without replacing the entire shoe, and getting another couple of months of use.

Yeah and then there are those with orthopaedics. Unless the innersole is paper thin or set deep enough inside the shoe to accommodate an orthopaedic I wont be getting a pair.

I suppose you might be able to remove the standard innersole by unstitching it.

[Alex_Paul]

I have to say the inside of the shoe certainly looks hard wearing and I am sure Nike have done adequate testing to ensure they last well!

[DJ Apostrophe]

Originally Posted by Blakeian

Yeah and then there are those with orthopaedics. Unless the innersole is paper thin or set deep enough inside the shoe to accommodate an orthopaedic I wont be getting a pair.

I suppose you might be able to remove the standard innersole by unstitching it.

With you on this one.

Wearing the swoosh isn't worth my plantar fasciitis coming back.

-w