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Got_Fenced_In · 10-22-2007, 03:06 PM

Well, it's true. Half of the people who posted said, 'U LYK ALREADY R BEING DISRESPECTFUL BY CALLING HIM AN ID1OT JUST GO 2 THE COACH!' and the other half said 'well, he is an idiot, hand him a rulebook!' But what I've been trying to say the whole time is, no matter how bad at judging he may be, and what I may actually think of him, I'm not going to be rude, but I want it resolved.

annacattiva · 10-22-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Got_Fenced_In

Well, it's true. Half of the people who posted said, 'U LYK ALREADY R BEING DISRESPECTFUL BY CALLING HIM AN ID1OT JUST GO 2 THE COACH!' and the other half said 'well, he is an idiot, hand him a rulebook!' But what I've been trying to say the whole time is, no matter how bad at judging he may be, and what I may actually think of him, I'm not going to be rude, but I want it resolved.

Hey! I don't spell like that.

Another potential part of the problem is how much your coach provoked the situation. pinkelephant says that the guy deserves disrespect; I find it hard to agree with that if, as it sounds in the OP might be the case, the coach asked people to help out by coaching. The parent might have felt like he was being drafted to help and didn't have much choice. Of course, that might also be entirely wrong.

Anna

Got_Fenced_In · 10-23-2007, 02:18 PM

I know. You're quite articulate. I was only poking fun at you. Sorry.

But no, even when the coach doesn't need help, you can bet on the fact that this guy is worming his way into helping. Because, in his eyes, he's 'fencing dad', and he knows everything fencing related. He tries to help other kids hook up to the machines and fix their weapons and things, when really he has no clue.

wbowman · 10-23-2007, 03:05 PM

Maybe someone ought to get him to take a beginner class himself. Try the approach of "you're going to have to drive the kid to tournaments anyway, you might as well fence."
Perhaps he'll learn something, and maybe we'll gain another Veteran fencer.
That said, I agree with those who say it should be brought up to the coach, who should deal with it.

remise · 10-23-2007, 04:45 PM

Or, you could do nothing and say nothing at all. If the calls are really outrageous, it will NEVER happen like that for that kid in a real tournament.

I am older, but the exact thing you describe happened to me when I began foil. I concentrated very hard on making one light touches, but the parent of the kid I fenced awarded him the point anyway, saying that,"If this was a real sword fight, he would have run you through...". One light touches. Lit on my side but awarded to my opponent.

It was frustrating, sure. But it was only practice. By coincidence, I had to fence that kid in tournament and beat him 5-0. The parent still refs and still gives outrageous calls. Who cares. They don't count.

Got_Fenced_In · 10-23-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by remise

It was frustrating, sure. But it was only practice. By coincidence, I had to fence that kid in tournament and beat him 5-0. The parent still refs and still gives outrageous calls. Who cares. They don't count.

True, I guess. And yeah, I've dealt with this before. But this time, remember, it isn't me having to deal with it.

But I'll point that out to the little bro.