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    Thanks Ignition! The quality is quite good and the fencing inspiring. Thanks Again.
    I'm a foil fencer, and I can change, if I have to, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! View Post
    I foresee legalities.
    Not as long as you simply embed...as long as people submit them to youtube, all copyright is pretty much forfeit(I think). Of course, thats the advantage of hosting them on a different website altogether: you can make a different terms of service. Then of course there is the entire bandwidth problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoilyDeath View Post
    Not as long as you simply embed...as long as people submit them to youtube, all copyright is pretty much forfeit(I think). Of course, thats the advantage of hosting them on a different website altogether: you can make a different terms of service. Then of course there is the entire bandwidth problem.
    Or at the least, set up an archive of LINKS to YouTube, with descriptions thereof. No legalities there!
    That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again.

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    More accurately, the legalities are YouTube's problem (not gone), and not yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oso97 View Post
    Or at the least, set up an archive of LINKS to YouTube, with descriptions thereof. No legalities there!
    I'll just need a couple of volunteers to write up some descriptions of the videos.

    Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoilyDeath View Post
    Not as long as you simply embed...as long as people submit them to youtube, all copyright is pretty much forfeit(I think).
    You are very misguided.

    A Few Guiding Principles

    It doesn't matter how long or short the clip is, or exactly how it got to YouTube. If you taped it off cable, videotaped your TV screen, or downloaded it from some other website, it is still copyrighted, and requires the copyright owner's permission to distribute.

    It doesn't matter whether or not you give credit to the owner/author/songwriter—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter that you are not selling the video for money—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter whether or not the video contains a copyright notice—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter whether other similar videos appear on our site—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter if you created a video made of short clips of copyrighted content—even though you edited it together, the content is still copyrighted.


    http://www.youtube.com/t/howto_copyright

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfp View Post
    You are very misguided.

    A Few Guiding Principles

    It doesn't matter how long or short the clip is, or exactly how it got to YouTube. If you taped it off cable, videotaped your TV screen, or downloaded it from some other website, it is still copyrighted, and requires the copyright owner's permission to distribute.

    It doesn't matter whether or not you give credit to the owner/author/songwriter—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter that you are not selling the video for money—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter whether or not the video contains a copyright notice—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter whether other similar videos appear on our site—it is still copyrighted.

    It doesn't matter if you created a video made of short clips of copyrighted content—even though you edited it together, the content is still copyrighted.


    http://www.youtube.com/t/howto_copyright
    This is what I was getting at.

    These youtube videos are ripped vids, and they are illegal. I have no moral objection to the ripping of videos, but I'm not a frickin idiot, and I wouldn't want any part of a lawsuit.

    Pay $5 and watch the videos on WCSN.
    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben

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    Quote Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! View Post
    Pay $5 and watch the videos on WCSN.
    If you're American.
    (or have access to a proxy in the states...)
    "First, second, third, dead f***in' last." - Greg Glassman

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    I think it would be hard to be blamed for watching a video on YouTube, expecting you to know the copyright status. It's entirely possible and in some cases likely that the material was uploaded with the permission of the copyright holder. However, it's a very different thing to UPLOAD a file, since you should know pretty well if you have rights to distribute the work or not.

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    Watching the MF videos makes me sad for what has happened to foil since the new timings were introduced.


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    Legalities aside, Women's Foil Teams, last few bouts of the final:

    http://www.dixinormous.me.uk/damenflorett-team.zip

    As sourced again from the wonderful JulianInc - http://youtube.com/JulianInc

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    seriously, why'd you choose that domain... nice upload. thnx!
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    Wow. The women's foil team match, the final touch (by penalty) to give Poland the win, was amazing. I mean, I've seen much worse covering target, with the mask, where it was not seen or ignored. I thought it was right and took a lot of guts. I'm curious, not being able to understand the German announcer, whether it was explained and whether the vid replay was used to make the call.
    I'm a foil fencer, and I can change, if I have to, I guess.

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    How do you know that it was for covering target and anything without understanding German?
    Last edited by Neinteen; 10-11-2007 at 09:27 PM.
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    He's just that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    He's just that good.
    Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    He's just that good.
    Nah. Actually, I missed it the first time around at normal speed. What tipped me off was the slo-mo replay and the other fencer looking to the invisible assesuer. It was not called immediatly, which makes me think it was "upon further review".

    The interesting thing is that Gruchala, had just been carded for something (numerous things going on, so it could have been technical or behavior related) to tie the score with only a few seconds left. The match goes into sudden death with Poland having priority in the last minute. Exciting stuff.
    I'm a foil fencer, and I can change, if I have to, I guess.

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    SWWWEEEEEEETTTT!
    Thanks for the posting.

    Yea, I'm still a noob. Big WOOP. Wanna fight about it?

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