09-23-2007, 12:44 PM
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#1 | | Fencing Expert
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| Fencing Article in Financial Times
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9a8a9d58-6...0779fd2ac.html
Discussing Usmanov. Big enough story to hit a major paper due to his being a part of the ownership group of Arsenal. Story looks at what he has done for fencing, looking for indications of how his personal billions might affect the football club.
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09-23-2007, 12:51 PM
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#2 | | Fencing Expert
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| Word on the street is that foil and possibly saber will go back to older timings if Usmanov is elected.
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09-23-2007, 01:00 PM
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| Oh wow. That would be interesting, to say the least. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the end of squirming created by the new timings, but to have to readapt back to the old timings would be a pain. If we do switch back, there needs to be some rule instituted enshrining the old timing, so we don't have a change every time someone new gets elected. | |
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09-23-2007, 02:54 PM
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#4 | | Yes We Did
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| Sounds like he's a sugardaddy to European fencing. Seems fine to me, but it says he's not running in the next FIE election.
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09-24-2007, 03:37 AM
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#5 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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“At a pinch, we can work together – as long as he is present,” says René Roch, president of the Swiss-based FIE, world fencing’s governing body, who fought off a challenge from Usmanov in 2004. “That’s the big problem. I just don’t see how he could manage the FIE if he is not available all the time. I spend eight hours a day here.”
| Well, I'm all for a little benign neglect, then.
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09-24-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata  Well, I'm all for a little benign neglect, then. | Yeah.
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09-24-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by edew Word on the street is that foil and possibly saber will go back to older timings if Usmanov is elected. | ...and a Lada in every driveway.
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09-24-2007, 02:36 PM
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| No need for a Lada (or Yugo), but I'll be happy if foil goes back. Saber can keep its new timing.
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09-24-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA Sounds like he's a sugardaddy to European fencing. Seems fine to me, but it says he's not running in the next FIE election. | apparently not only European  http://www.fencingfuture.com/
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09-24-2007, 02:53 PM
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09-24-2007, 03:07 PM
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| Yup. He talks the talk and walks the walk. He's cool by me.
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09-24-2007, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Redblade Yeah.
Effort <> competency. | http://images.despair.com/products/d...competence.jpg
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09-25-2007, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by edew Yup. He talks the talk and walks the walk. He's cool by me. | Same here. Have no idea about his business interests but he is on target regarding fencing. | |
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09-25-2007, 10:48 AM
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| Hmmm...the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan (Usmanov's birthplace) doesn't have a lot of positive things to say about him. Craig Murray's blog was shut down at the request of Usmanov's attorneys, but the entry has been reproduced here: http://charliemarks.wordpress.com/20...isher-usmanov/
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09-26-2007, 10:58 AM
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| Not a pretty picture but doesn't surprise me. Typical portrait of a Russian billionaire. | |
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09-27-2007, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by edew Word on the street is that foil and possibly saber will go back to older timings if Usmanov is elected. | I am not sure you should be listening to "the street".
Having your ear to said street could lead to being run over... | |
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09-27-2007, 04:51 PM
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| Better than Rene Roch in terms of his fencing policies. Roch's policy is pander to all the members of the fie that aren't the great powers. Works out politically, but hurts fencing (aka timing changes) I'm tired of him and more than ready for someone new.
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09-28-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sabresque Better than Rene Roch in terms of his fencing policies. Roch's policy is pander to all the members of the fie that aren't the great powers. Works out politically, but hurts fencing (aka timing changes) I'm tired of him and more than ready for someone new. | Actually I thought that RR's policy was to pander to the IOC, irregardless of the impact to fencing. And of course the IOC in turn panders to television networks who pay large amounts for the rights to broadcast the Olympic games - especially NBC because they pay significantly more than anyone else and possibly more than everyone else combined.
Maybe if Usmanov were to make a sufficiently large "contribution" to the IOC then he could gain sufficient influence to help fencing. | |
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09-29-2007, 05:46 PM
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#19 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| He's a multitasking panderer! Curry favor with the smaller federations in order to keep the power to have his own way in the FIE, that he may better pander to the IOC ( and anonymous television network executives ).
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09-29-2007, 07:51 PM
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#20 | | Super Shoebie
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Originally Posted by Inquartata He's a multitasking panderer! Curry favor with the smaller federations in order to keep the power to have his own way in the FIE, that he may better pander to the IOC ( and anonymous television network executives ). | I thought that was democracy... | |
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