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hpfencing · 08-27-2007, 05:03 PM

On askfred at:
http://askfred.net/Events/moreInfo.p...nament_id=4161

2007 Nick Toth Fencing Open
HOSTED BY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY

LOCATION
USAF ACADEMY CADET GYMNASIUM, CENTER GYM

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS
Saturday, October27th 2007
Registration Closes for:
Open Mixed Epee at 9:30AM
Women’s Saber at 9:30 AM
Y12 and Under Epee 10:30 AM
Open Mixed Saber at 12:30 PM
Women’s Epee at 12:30 PM

Sunday, October 28th 2007
Registration Closes for:
Open Mixed Foil at 9:30AM
Y14 and Under Epee at 9:30 AM
Women’s Foil at 12:00 PM
Y16 and Under Epee at 1:00 PM

HOTEL INFORMATION
Drury Inn-Colorado Springs- 719-598-2500-When making reservations ask for the "School Rate" corporate ID number 312188 this will allow you to receive the rate of $59.00 per night for 1-4ppl.
Included in the rate you will receive FREE HOT! QUIKSTART Breakfast. Scrambled eggs, sausage, Belgian waffles, biscuits & gravy and more. FREE Evening Beverages and Snacks.

Equipments
Masks will be checked. All other equipment will be tested on the strip.

REGISTRATION
Separate registration for each event is required. Entry Fee: $25 fee per event - register and pay on the day of the competition. Please make checks payable to AFAAA. (If a fencer wants to fence in 2 events, 2 checks are required). Please register on ASKFRED
All USFA rules will apply. Proof of USFA membership is required.
Format: 1 round of pools. 80% will advance to DE with no repechage.

There will be awards for the top 4 finishers in each weapon.
If you have any questions, please Contact Abdel Salem
Abdel.salem@usafa.af.mil
719 – 333 - 4807

epeeforlife · 08-28-2007, 12:56 PM

This is a great event...The USAFA is using askfred! I'm almost speechless.

The Nick Toth has always been a good event in the past, and now with askfred it should be even better. At the very least we will have an idea of who is going to show up.

Jay Kominek · 08-28-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by epeeforlife

This is a great event...The USAFA is using askfred! I'm almost speechless.

It looks like Matt was the one who put the event up on FRED.

Did you volunteer to enter the results of the events afterwards, as well? Or will they manage that themselves?

epeeforlife · 08-28-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Kominek

It looks like Matt was the one who put the event up on FRED.

Did you volunteer to enter the results of the events afterwards, as well? Or will they manage that themselves?

Thanks Jay, looks like you're correct about USAFA not setting it up. Sometimes it is difficult to catch all of the details with my job.

Well crap! I will have to recant my joy. The USAFA is not using askfred. I guess it is a move in the right direction. We will have to have a tutorial with Coach Salem or one of his cadets so that they can handle this themselves.

hpfencing · 08-28-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Kominek

It looks like Matt was the one who put the event up on FRED.

Did you volunteer to enter the results of the events afterwards, as well? Or will they manage that themselves?

Actually yes I did volunteer to help them out this year. I have been refereeing for Coach Salem the last few years and now I'm gonna help him with data and what not. If anyone else needs help let me know. I'll galddly help anyone set up an event.

Nothing worng with helping another club in the RMS out.

Jay Kominek · 09-06-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hpfencing

Nothing worng with helping another club in the RMS out.

Nothing at all. Will you be putting up the complete pool & DE results, or just the final placings?

epeeforlife · 09-06-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hpfencing

Nothing worng with helping another club in the RMS out.

As long as it's not like the government coming in to "help"

hpfencing · 09-07-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Kominek

Nothing at all. Will you be putting up the complete pool & DE results, or just the final placings?

We will be putting up pool and DE Reults after the event.
With the simple features of uploading from askfred I don't know why EVERYONE would not always post the pool adn DE results, now-a-days!

Thanks to Peet for making everything work togeterh so smooth

epeeforlife · 09-08-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hpfencing

Thanks to Peet for making everything work togeterh so smooth

Before you upload the results, for Peet's sake please get your keyboard fixed or get a spell check. Nothing "worng" with helping each other out. "Togeterh" we can be one big happy RMS.

Jay Young · 09-08-2007, 02:16 AM

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Peet's sake

That's one of the funniest things I've seen on this boardh.

epeeforlife · 10-26-2007, 11:02 AM

Anyone planning on going to see one of the World Series Games????

epeeforlife · 10-27-2007, 10:51 PM

Sounds like arc was hungry today. Evidently he had a full plate of posteriors to chew on!

Jay Young · 10-28-2007, 03:31 PM

Waddya mean? How'd it go?

gorgie101 · 10-28-2007, 10:51 PM

Well the event was great but ARC did have to make some complaints. The refs were good for the most part but there were a few that were not even rated. The strips in the second room were not regulation size (less than 1.5m wide) ARC made complaints about that.

There also seemed to be a lot of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing. Example: I was not listed with the correct rating and informed the bout committee well before the start of my event. Event pools are posted and they still do not have my rating correct. I again told the bout committee and they fixed it in the computer. I made the assumption that they would reseed the pools. 10min later get called to my pool and it is STILL not fixed. Ultimately it didn't make much of a difference but it could have and they should have reseeded the pools.

I just really hope they get all of this fixed before the Falcon in December.

Epeeforlife might have some more observations as ARC should too. These are just what I observed. I would like to know how today went since I had to leave yesterday.

epeeforlife · 10-29-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gorgie101

There also seemed to be a lot of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing.

This seems to happen a lot with HPfencing... especially when he's typing.

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Epeeforlife might have some more observations as ARC should too. These are just what I observed. I would like to know how today went since I had to leave yesterday.

I definitely have more observations. Prepare yourselves.

Jay Kominek · 10-29-2007, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gorgie101

Well the event was great but ARC did have to make some complaints. The refs were good for the most part but there were a few that were not even rated.

No ref rating, nor competitor rating?

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Originally Posted by gorgie101

The strips in the second room were not regulation size (less than 1.5m wide) ARC made complaints about that.

Were they the rubber mats, still? The ones not attached to the floor, which slide and bunch up if you try to stop?
Those certainly add a new dimension of pain and anguish to the sport.

arc · 10-29-2007, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Kominek

No ref rating, nor competitor rating?

Were they the rubber mats, still? The ones not attached to the floor, which slide and bunch up if you try to stop?
Those certainly add a new dimension of pain and anguish to the sport.

Without going into too many details and recognizing that there were several good referees present, the cadre for the event did seem a bit on the weak side, and there were occasional problems with an insufficient number of referees available for the events going on, at least on Saturday. There were several referees without referee ratings, and in a couple of instances, it was . . . apparent.

Yes, the other strips were the rubber mats. My issue with them isn't that they aren't 1.5m wide; my issue is that they don't even meet the 1m minimum width approved for local tournaments in the 2006 Ops Manual (they appeared to be 30 in. wide, or about .75m).

All that said, the quality of the fencers present and the fencing therefrom was excellent. I just wish I could say the same about my own performance.

hpfencing · 10-29-2007, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by arc

All that said, the quality of the fencers present and the fencing there from was excellent.

All in all I think the event was successful. Thanks goes to all those that came up and supported the Air Force Academy. We look forward to seeing everyone at the Falcon during the first weekend of December. Hopefully a lot of you will come compete in the event.

epeeforlife · 10-29-2007, 01:31 PM

Thanks for your first-hand account, arc. Nothing to really add to arc's day one observations other than he has always been more diplomatic than I. Sources say day two was much smoother. The smaller foil event was less pressure on everyone and no rubber mats! If arc had been there on day two he would have gotten hungry. The posterior leftovers from day one had unplated themselves and arc would have had to buy his own lunch.

Partial results were up for a bit, but hpfencing used his standard defective keyboard and someone pulled the results. Hopefully they will be available soon.

Jay Young · 10-29-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gorgie101

Example: I was not listed with the correct rating and informed the bout committee well before the start of my event. Event pools are posted and they still do not have my rating correct.

I think I know the problem. If you look carefully, it seems that Aaron fenced in two pools.