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    Science Magazine

    I've rediscovered something I bought at a yard sale when I was a young kid: Science Magazine "The Popular Science Monthly." Get this. Volume 1, No. 1, through Volume 2, No. 37. Starting Friday, January 4, 1895. It's a kick to read through this. It includes a section on "New Books," including Progress in Flying Machines and Lectures on Darwinian Theory. FASCINATING!

    Anyway, I guess I had better find a proper archive to donate this treasure (unless you tell me that everyone has this kicking around their house...). Any ideas?
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    This is a link to the American magazine called Science

    http://www.sciencemag.org/archive/

    I was lucky that I was a co-author of an article published in 1988. The journal began being published in July of 1880, which seems prior to your magazines.
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    Wow...why would it say Vol 1 issue 1? But the numbers speak for themselves. I guess that would explain why it says "The Popular Science Monthly" on the "1st issue." Seems like that would be kind of presumptuous if it had NEVER been published before...
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    I went to the archives. "Vol 1" begins in 1895...but there are issues before that. Viewing the archives requires a membership I don't possess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloit Fencer of Old View Post
    IIt includes a section on "New Books," including Progress in Flying Machines and Lectures on Darwinian Theory. FASCINATING!
    I'd love to get a copy of the Darwinian Theory article. It would be interesting to contrast that with the current pseudoscience arguments presented by ID and other scientific creationists. I could use this in a summer workshop I run on Evolution.
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    That's awesome.


    My sophmore year of high school, my chemistry teacher brought in a chemistry book from the late nineteenth century. It was funny to read, but at the same time incredible to see how far we've come in such a little time.

    For example, it discussed a crazy new theory of "atoms" that was becoming popular. It said that oxygen weighed eight times hydrogen. (Because back then they thought that water was equal parts of both).

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    Quote Originally Posted by academe View Post
    I'd love to get a copy of the Darwinian Theory article. It would be interesting to contrast that with the current pseudoscience arguments presented by ID and other scientific creationists. I could use this in a summer workshop I run on Evolution.
    The Darwinian Theory thing is just a listing of a "New Book," it's not an article (which I would happily scan for you). I may peruse to see if there is anything else regarding evolution. Mind you, it won't be thorough...there are thousands of pages here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloit Fencer of Old View Post
    I've rediscovered something I bought at a yard sale when I was a young kid: Science Magazine "The Popular Science Monthly." Get this. Volume 1, No. 1, through Volume 2, No. 37. Starting Friday, January 4, 1895. It's a kick to read through this. It includes a section on "New Books," including Progress in Flying Machines and Lectures on Darwinian Theory. FASCINATING!

    Anyway, I guess I had better find a proper archive to donate this treasure (unless you tell me that everyone has this kicking around their house...). Any ideas?
    Check with the American Antiquarian Society in Worcester Mass. I am sure they would love to have it. They have a web site, I'll get it for you when I get home. I have toured the place..AWSOME. Ken Burns from the PBS documentry does a lot of his research there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicksmom View Post
    Check with the American Antiquarian Society in Worcester Mass. I am sure they would love to have it. They have a web site, I'll get it for you when I get home. I have toured the place..AWSOME. Ken Burns from the PBS documentry does a lot of his research there.
    Wow...cool!
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    It would be interesting to host those online.
    Lots of scanning, unfortunately, but once done the entire set would be online for people to enjoy without having to handle the originals.

    There's gotta be somewhere on the internet that would do such a thing. And probably track down other copies.
    But I can't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Monk View Post
    It would be interesting to host those online.
    Lots of scanning, unfortunately, but once done the entire set would be online for people to enjoy without having to handle the originals.

    There's gotta be somewhere on the internet that would do such a thing. And probably track down other copies.
    But I can't find it.
    JEC already posted a link to where the historical copies can be found. Unfortnately, one must have a membership to view them...
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    That was to "Science".

    My understanding is that you're talking about "Popular Science", a different magazine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Monk View Post
    That was to "Science".

    My understanding is that you're talking about "Popular Science", a different magazine.
    So for Science.

    4 January 1895
    Vol 1, Issue 1, Pages 1-28

    table of contents;

    To Our Readers: S. NEWCOMB..................1
    Scriptoribus et Lectoribus, Salutem. D. C. GILMAN, 2
    The Character and Aimns of Scientific Investigation:
    DANIEL G. BRINTON......................... 3
    America's Relation to the Advance of Science: G.
    BROWN GOODE............................... 4
    Legal Units of Electric Measure: T. C. MENDENH
    A L L .......................................9
    The Humanities: J. W. POWELL ...............15
    Zoological Nomenclature: C. HART MERRIAM.... 18
    The Need of a Change of Base in the Study of North
    American Orthoptera: SAMUEL H. SCUDDER... 19
    Scientific Literature: -...................... 20
    Ziwet's Mechanics: R. S. W. Osborn's From
    the Greeks to Darwin: A. S. PACKARD.
    Bateson's Materials for the Study of Variation:
    H. W. CONN. Ethnological Jurisprudence: D.
    G. B. Botanical: N. L. B.
    Notes: .................................26
    The Scientific Societies; Physics; Anthropology;
    Educational,, Forthcoming Books.
    Societies and Academies......................28
    Scentific Journals ..........................28
    New Books ................................28

    Unlike JEC I have never published in Science, but I did just have a paper rejected from nature - so smile at the drive thru
    Last edited by keith; 08-22-2007 at 12:14 PM. Reason: changed to contents from PDF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Monk View Post
    That was to "Science".

    My understanding is that you're talking about "Popular Science", a different magazine.
    No...the one I have is "Science." On the front page it says "The Popular..." as a descriptive statement about itself. I doubt Popular Science is this old...but I don't know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith View Post
    So for Science.

    4 January 1895
    Vol 1, Issue 1, Pages 1-28

    table of contents;

    TO OUR READERS
    S. NEWCOMB
    Science 4 January 1895: 1-2.

    ***snip***

    AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS
    RALPH W. POPE
    Science 4 January 1895: 28.
    PDF »|
    SCIENTIFIC JOURNALS
    Science 4 January 1895: 28.
    PDF »|

    Unlike JEC I have never published in Science, but I did just have a paper rejected from nature - so smile at the drive thru
    Yes, this is what I have. I just heard back from my alma mater...their archive doesn't have room to preserve the magazines...I will have to look into AAS as recommended by Nicksmom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloit Fencer of Old View Post
    Yes, this is what I have. I just heard back from my alma mater...their archive doesn't have room to preserve the magazines...I will have to look into AAS as recommended by Nicksmom.
    You might want to contact scientific societies. Some of them are becoming more interested about their "pre-history". My society, the American Epilepsy Society was founded in 1946, but there were prior gatherings of professionals working on this field since the beginning of 1900s. The Institute of Medicine and the National Science Foundation might be also be interested.

    At my institution, I was able to login at the website that I posted. It seems that you have the 2nd series of the magazine, which started in 1895.

    1890-1899
    1899 - Volumes 9 - 10, Issues 210 - 261
    1898 - Volumes 7 - 8, Issues 158 - 209
    1897 - Volumes 5 - 6, Issues 105 - 157
    1896 - Volumes 3 - 4, Issues 53 - 104
    1895 - Volumes 1 - 2, Issues 1 - 52
    1894 - Volume ns-23, Issues 570 - 581
    1893 - Volumes ns-21 - ns-22, Issues 518 - 569
    1892 - Volumes ns-19 - ns-20, Issues 465 - 517
    1891 - Volumes ns-17 - ns-18, Issues 413 - 464
    1890 - Volumes ns-15 - ns-16, Issues 361 - 412

    1880-1889
    1889 - Volumes ns-13 - ns-14, Issues 309 - 360
    1888 - Volumes ns-11 - ns-12, Issues 257 - 308
    1887 - Volumes ns-9 - ns-10, Issues 205 - 256
    1886 - Volumes ns-7 - ns-8, Issues 152 - 204
    1885 - Volumes ns-5 - ns-6, Issues 100 - 151
    1884 - Volumes ns-3 - ns-4, Issues 48 - 99
    1883 - Volumes ns-1 - ns-2, Issues 1 - 47
    1881 - Volume os-2, Issues 29 - 80
    1880 - Volume os-1, Issues 1 - 28


    The table of contents of the 1895 vol 1 No 1 reads as posted by Keith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by academe View Post
    I'd love to get a copy of the Darwinian Theory article. It would be interesting to contrast that with the current pseudoscience arguments presented by ID and other scientific creationists. I could use this in a summer workshop I run on Evolution.
    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/1/1/21.pdf

    My institution does not have access to that article. It costs you $10. I used to be AAAS member, but not any longer.
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