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Old 08-20-2007, 11:23 AM   #1
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Can you find the best video definition of an attack in foil?

I have an experiment/exercise in mind for all you cyberarchaeologists. Much like America's Funniest Home Videos, let's play Fnet's Most Definitive Online Video!

1) Search the web far and wide for a snippet of fencing that you think best defines/shows what an attack looks like.

B) Post it in this thread with your reasoning. I will rep all reasonable entries.

iii) Your forum 'peers' review it.

IV) If necessary, we can have a poll and I'll do my best to obtain more rep points for the winner (begging is a specialty.)

Fencing democracy in action! This Is a forum, after all...
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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You assume there is "one" attack.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:36 PM   #3
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Alright, replace 'attack' with 'establishment and maintainenance of Right of Way until scoring successfully', but I prefer succinctness, generally...
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:40 PM   #4
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:15 PM   #5
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I looked it up in the rule book and Rick Rolling only constitutes an attack on common decency and good taste...
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:11 PM   #6
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http://sports.expertvillage.com/vide...ks-fencing.htm

Or "advanced": http://sports.expertvillage.com/vide...ck-fencing.htm

Bottom clip on this page his a nice attack.

Last clip on this page as well.

And, of course, Romankov's Stuttering Clown attack (and a BUNCH of other nice attack clips) on this page.

Not sure what you mean by "defines/shows what an attack looks like", but these give a number of varieties of nice attacks in different settings.

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You've got to be kidding!!! I hope that's not you, Brad, with a disguised last name.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:36 AM   #8
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You've got to be kidding!!! I hope that's not you, Brad, with a disguised last name.
Fortunately, no. Although with a last name of "Bogus"....

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http://sports.expertvillage.com/vide...ks-fencing.htm

Or "advanced": http://sports.expertvillage.com/vide...ck-fencing.htm

Bottom clip on this page his a nice attack.

Last clip on this page as well.

And, of course, Romankov's Stuttering Clown attack (and a BUNCH of other nice attack clips) on this page.

Not sure what you mean by "defines/shows what an attack looks like", but these give a number of varieties of nice attacks in different settings.

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And Mr. O rides in on his Cherry and White horse delivering many good choices! Thanks! Your cool points are on the way - sorry I can't reward each choice (well, at least 3 of them...), but everyone already knows your coolocity factor is Way High...

Actually, it's not what I mean by 'defines/shows', the idea is the forum members - at least those who have the interest to show up and comment - decide what a good example would be for possible inclusion into the wiki.

Now, with three up for viewing, each shows something a bit different. Which offers the most educational 'meat' for the interested but uninitiated viewer?
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:39 AM   #10
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Now, with three up for viewing, each shows something a bit different.
There's more than three nice examples of vastly different attacks merely on the last page to which I linked. Tons more out there.

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You've got to be kidding!!! I hope that's not you, Brad, with a disguised last name.
Doesn't bother really to define an attack in the first video. Was discouraged by his bogusness from watching the second. I wonder if he has any friends who might help him demonstrate that an attack is done in complicity with a second party.
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Nice attack from the "Fence!" command in this video at the 1:01 mark.

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There's more than three nice examples of vastly different attacks merely on the last page to which I linked. Tons more out there.

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An overwhelming number of examples, I'd say. That's the trick to this - filtering And defining what the criteria could be. If we have a beginning, it makes it easier to create a meaningful conversation. I think that's part of the issue with a thread like this - the Old Timers know what an attack looks like, so why spend the time on something like this? But really, we're talking about the 'Fonds de Cuisine' - the foundation/bed rock/basis of the sport and if the stock sucks, the sauce sucks - if you cook with garbage, you're still serving garbage...

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Nice attack from the "Fence!" command in this video at the 1:01 mark.

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Man, the weapon arm is certainly an important facet of wheelchair fencing!...
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I'm coming to the idea that there should be a collection of snippets, each emphasizing a different aspect.
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I'm coming to the idea that there should be a collection of snippets, each emphasizing a different aspect.
Then my work here is done. :)

What is the envisioned goal of finding a clip (or clips)? It's extraordinarily unclear from the OP.

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Well, that was partly intentional and partly when you keep having the same conversation, but in different places, you forget not everyone knows what you're talking about...anyway I think it would be nice to create a collection of video examples - easily accessible here on fnet - to facilitate possible inclusion in the wiki - as an unofficial resource for the referee inclined. I think there's more than enough brain power and experience to put something useful together, but as always the problem is mostly inertia, so ya gotta start somewhere...and this is where I started.

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