SYC info????

[fencing freakster]

Anyone have inside scoops about this year's Supers, or who has/is bidding them???

Thanks!
FF

[countambrosius]

it will come out when the seasons starts so wait

[fencing freakster]

Not everyone has the luxury of waiting between jobs, work travel and other family members who travel frequently for other activities...

Sincerely,
A stressed FREAKSTER

[oiuyt]

Deadline: Groups intending on bidding for a Super Youth Circuit must submit a letter of interest to the Youth Development Committee no later than August 10, 2007. Completed bid packets must be submitted to the Youth Development Committee by August 25, 2007.

Given that bids aren't due for another 3 weeks.... I think you're going to have to wait on this one for at least a bit more.

-B

[fencing freakster]

thanks. That was useful info! It helps me make a big decision.
Grateful, freak

[oiuyt]

According to the YDC site the selected events are expected to be announced ~2 weeks after the bid due date. So you should have the information by mid-September at the latest.

-B

[countambrosius]

What is ur division first of all if ur in pacific division jr/snr championships are in pasdena in may and youth is in march 1 and 2nd no location though. All SYC are done by mid april so hope this is more helpful

[KD5MDK]

I'm not familiar with the pacific division? Is that all Ds and below who enjoy sun, suft and sand?

[teacup]

What is ur division first of all if ur in pacific division jr/snr championships are in pasdena in may and youth is in march 1 and 2nd no location though. All SYC are done by mid april so hope this is more helpful

The Jr PCC's in May are the Pacific Coast Section's U19 Qualifiers. They are not listed as an SYC. Not sure what the Youth PCC's in March are but they are not listed as an RYC or SYC.

http://www.usfaryc.org/Documents.html
The following is posted on the USFA youth website:
Documents Schedule Update:
Completed Bid Applications are to be submitted to the
Youth Development Committee at by October 15, 2006.

The Youth Development Committee will publish the list
of Super Youth Circuits at www.usfaryc.org no later
than October 30, 2006.

The Super Youth Circuits for 2006-2007 will take place
between December 2006 and April 2007.

[lurkerdad]

The Jr PCC's in May are the Pacific Coast Section's U19 Qualifiers. They are not listed as an SYC. Not sure what the Youth PCC's in March are but they are not listed as an RYC.

http://www.usfaryc.org/Documents.html
The following is posted on the USFA youth website:
Documents Schedule Update:
Completed Bid Applications are to be submitted to the
Youth Development Committee at by October 15, 2006.

The Youth Development Committee will publish the list
of Super Youth Circuits at www.usfaryc.org no later
than October 30, 2006.

The Super Youth Circuits for 2006-2007 will take place
between December 2006 and April 2007.

The Jr PCC's have always been a joint RYC/SYC since the SYC thing started.
Unless something drastic happens this year, I think everybody in the PCS is assuming that the Pasadena Jr PCC in March will be the SYC. (Especially since the Summer Nats are in SJ and the Youth NAC is in Portland, the LA area is the only logical place to hold an SYC.)

[oiuyt]

Especially since the Summer Nats are in SJ and the Youth NAC is in Portland, the LA area is the only logical place to hold an SYC.

Uhm. Or somewhere in the Western third of the country that's non-coastal. Pheonix. Salt Lake City. Denver. Boise.

I'm not saying that it WON'T be in LA (indeed, I suspect that you're right and it will be), but I wouldn't take it as a given that no one else is entitled to have a reasonable chance with their bid.

-B

[teacup]

The Jr PCC's have always been a joint RYC/SYC since the SYC thing started.
Unless something drastic happens this year, I think everybody in the PCS is assuming that the Pasadena Jr PCC in March will be the SYC. (Especially since the Summer Nats are in SJ and the Youth NAC is in Portland, the LA area is the only logical place to hold an SYC.)

Before making any assumptions perhaps you should contact the jr and/or youth chairs of the section or the USFA Youth Development Committee.
Currently on the PCS website it only states that the SR/JR PCC's are in May and that the Youth PCC's are part of a section youth circuit. There is no mention of an SYC. The JR PCC's have only been combined with an SYC for three years. This is the first year in a long time where the SR and the JR PCC's will be combined.
http://pcsfencing.com/schedule/

[4qtrs]

Unless something drastic happens this year, I think everybody in the PCS is assuming that the Pasadena Jr PCC in March will be the SYC.

You mean like a change in Section management?

[edew]

The Jr PCCs will be held with the Sr PCCs in May in Pasadena. That is, just the junior (U-19) PCCs. The Youth PCCs is currently scheduled for March 1-2, either in LA/SD area or somewhere in NorCal area. At the moment, the Youth PCCs are not including cadet events.

There is a consideration of splitting the youth events to have Y10/Y12 on one weekend somewhere and the Y14/cadet on another weekend somewhere else. My position is to keep the Y10/Y12/Y14 together, drop the Cadet and have it on one weekend. I personally feel that the coaches and fencers on the boundary (10-12 year olds with strong abilities) and parents would prefer a one-weekend deal rather than a two-weekend deal, especially if both weekends are held in the same or nearby area. (That is, if both are held in SoCal or both in NorCal areas. In either case, going two weekends to some other location is not going to be desirable for fencers, coaches and parents.)

Another solution would be to have a LARGE venue to run all youth and cadet. That is also being looked at.

Also, the youth portion (really, just the Y10 and Y12) will be sanctioned as a RYC so that those who attend will qualify to the respective Y10 or Y12 events at the Summer Nationals.

One SYC is apparently scheduled for the March 28-30 weekend in San Jose, although we (the PCS officers) don't have direct information indicating that.

As to why there is a split, it's basically because of various political issues. I personally don't understand it, but I'm not in any position to make any changes one way or another (i.e., make the SYC part of the Jr/Youth PCCs or move the Youth/Jr PCCs to the SYC).

[KD5MDK]

One SYC is apparently scheduled for the March 28-30 weekend in San Jose, although we (the PCS officers) don't have direct information indicating that.

How can there be an SYC scheduled when the bid deadline hasn't even passed?

[oiuyt]

How can there be an SYC scheduled when the bid deadline hasn't even passed?

How can the Vice Chair for Juniors not understand the politics of how his event was scheduled?* Or perhaps what EDew meant was that he doesn't understand how he's not in any position to affect the scheduling. :)

-B

* and, yes, I realize that isn't quite what EDew was saying. It's funnier my way.

[edew]

Before making any assumptions perhaps you should contact the jr and/or youth chairs of the section or the USFA Youth Development Committee.
Currently on the PCS website it only states that the SR/JR PCC's are in May and that the Youth PCC's are part of a section youth circuit. There is no mention of an SYC. The JR PCC's have only been combined with an SYC for two years. This is the first year the SR and the JR PCC's will be combined.
http://pcsfencing.com/schedule/

Actually Sr and Jr PCCs have been combined, as a general rule, up to about 1995 or so. I think it was, starting in 1996 (maybe 95 or even 94) that the Jr PCCs was separated due to the increased numbers. Certainly, the effects of Summer Nationals' arrival in 1997 with all the youth events spurred the need to offer youth events with the Jr PCCs. 1998 or 1999 Jr PCCs was held in Sacramento (Marcos Lucchetti was the head organizer) and had rather small (compared to present-day events) entry fields. The PCS section does have these results archived.

[edew]

How can there be an SYC scheduled when the bid deadline hasn't even passed?

I believe there's a contract signed for a venue in San Jose. And other reasons...

[edew]

How can the Vice Chair for Juniors not understand the politics of how his event was scheduled?* Or perhaps what EDew meant was that he doesn't understand how he's not in any position to affect the scheduling.

-B

* and, yes, I realize that isn't quite what EDew was saying. It's funnier my way.

You have to be in my shoes to understand why I don't understand. That's the zen of being buffeted around in the sea of PCS politics.

[teacup]

Actually Sr and Jr PCCs have been combined, as a general rule, up to about 1995 or so. I think it was, starting in 1996 (maybe 95 or even 94) that the Jr PCCs was separated due to the increased numbers. Certainly, the effects of Summer Nationals' arrival in 1997 with all the youth events spurred the need to offer youth events with the Jr PCCs. 1998 or 1999 Jr PCCs was held in Sacramento (Marcos Lucchetti was the head organizer) and had rather small (compared to present-day events) entry fields. The PCS section does have these results archived.

Okay, I stand corrected. The JR and SR PCC's have been combined in the past and for many years there have been Youth events at the JR PCC's but the JR PCC's have only been combined with an SYC for 2005, 06 and 07. Before that SYC's and RYC's, I don't think existed.

But as of right now it is not stated anywhere that there are plans for the 2008 JR, Youth or SR PCC's to be combined with an SYC and that was what lurkerdad was making an assumption about.