Leon Paul Spartan Range 350N Jacket

[LeftHanded]

I NEED a new jacket. preferable before the new season starts. I was looking at their competition range and didn't think that I would be willing to fork over 150$ for a jacket if I could avoid it. Has anyone used these? Right now I am using a blue gauntlet cotton/nylon jacket that I have had since I started.

How do these fit? I would like one that fit's pretty close. The one I have know is just a little to big. This mostly caused by me dropping weight since I started fencing. Do these Jackets taper to fit a little closer?

[Craig]

Alex can correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks to be the same jacket as the USFA Co-Brand jacket, just without the USFA branding.

(Since you're calling it the "Spartan", where's the 300 movie tie-in?)

Craig

Originally Posted by LeftHanded

I NEED a new jacket. preferable before the new season starts. I was looking at their competition range and didn't think that I would be willing to fork over 150$ for a jacket if I could avoid it. Has anyone used these? Right now I am using a blue gauntlet cotton/nylon jacket that I have had since I started.

How do these fit? I would like one that fit's pretty close. The one I have know is just a little to big. This mostly caused by me dropping weight since I started fencing. Do these Jackets taper to fit a little closer?

[HDG]

Originally Posted by Craig

(Since you're calling it the "Spartan", where's the 300 movie tie-in?)

Craig

Wouldn't that require fencing in nothing but mask and loin cloth?

[needle]

Originally Posted by HDG

Wouldn't that require fencing in nothing but mask and loin cloth?

Not necessarily, but it would require a new Spartan fencing mask

[Point_Left]

Originally Posted by needle

Not necessarily, but it would require a new Spartan fencing mask

Is that FIE? I like the bluish tint to the mesh.

[LeftHanded]

I'm just calling it by what I saw on the site? Maybe it's the same, I don't know. I haven't used LP uniforms before

[Seanie Tyrone]

Originally Posted by needle

Not necessarily, but it would require a new Spartan fencing mask

All it needs is a grille and a bib

[Point_Left]

Originally Posted by Seanie Tyrone

All it needs is a grille and a bib

I think it is one of those visor masks. No idea what happened to the bib, though.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

Go for something FIE, or go for something economical (like your blue gauntlet jacket).

Forget the "in-between" items. They'll dissapoint you.

[KD5MDK]

I find it interesting you say that, when Alex Paul says he uses LP "Competition" 350N gear, and of all people on this forum he's in the best position to have whatever he wants (as long as it is LP )

[LeftHanded]

The thing with FIE is that I don't have 200$ to fork over. Because I am going to college I got to think about money and where it goes. I think that I will probably get the Competition range. It is a little more expensive but I think that it will justify my use of it.

[bobb121]

I was just in your situation with college and all. Go with an FIE uniform and it will last longer. If you wash it regularly it will probably last atleast 20years

[rory]

Originally Posted by bobb121

I was just in your situation with college and all. Go with an FIE uniform and it will last longer. If you wash it regularly it will probably last atleast 20years

Probably not, I'm afraid.
If you fence foil, the action of your lame wearing on the inside of your weapon arm will rub away at the cloth and make it unsafe within a couple or three years of heavy fencing.

[LeftHanded]

Thank heaven for Epee

[LeftHanded]

I just did some extra Research and found a Uhlmann World Cup 800nw FIE for 195 +s&h. good deal?

Money is really tight. I got club dues, lessons, entrance fee's, Gas, and I got to put 600$ going towards a car. SO money is really tight

[lemon__fresh]

Originally Posted by LeftHanded

I just did some extra Research and found a Uhlmann World Cup 800nw FIE for 195 +s&h. good deal?

Money is really tight. I got club dues, lessons, entrance fee's, Gas, and I got to put 600$ going towards a car. SO money is really tight

id go with that or the LP Atlanta

[brtech]

That's a good price. You might just check with Fechsport Langenkamp to see what it would cost from them. The list price is 116 euros, which is about $160. Whether they can ship it for less than 35 is questionable.

[Alex_Paul]

Spartan and USFA are going to be the same item.

I do use competition range and an FIE out of choice over anything else.

The wicking lining in the Competition is really amazing.

Check out the videos here is a standard wicking material like under armour http://www.transpor.com/transpor/videos/wiw2.mpg

and here is Transpor http://www.transpor.com/transpor/videos/wiw1.mpg

The transpor is light years ahead

I don't need FIE because I consider an 800N plastron and 350N jacket to be enough for normal use.

The Competition range will be WAY more comfortable than any cheap FIE jacket.

The Cheap allstar FIE is I believe just made from two layers of the same material we use for the spartan/USFA jacket.

Alex

[LeftHanded]

Originally Posted by Alex_Paul

Spartan and USFA are going to be the same item.

I do use competition range and an FIE out of choice over anything else.

The wicking lining in the Competition is really amazing.

Check out the videos here is a standard wicking material like under armour http://www.transpor.com/transpor/videos/wiw2.mpg

and here is Transpor http://www.transpor.com/transpor/videos/wiw1.mpg

The transpor is light years ahead

I don't need FIE because I consider an 800N plastron and 350N jacket to be enough for normal use.

The Competition range will be WAY more comfortable than any cheap FIE jacket.

The Cheap allstar FIE is I believe just made from two layers of the same material we use for the spartan/USFA jacket.

Alex

What is the difference between the Spartan and the Cometition range?

[Alex_Paul]

competition is full stretch and fully lined with transpor

spartan is not stretch and un lined but has integrated 800N area under the arm and on the lead arm.

"Spartan range
50 Newton CEN level one certified but constructed from 470N material!

Lightweight construction making it cool and easy to move in.

Integrated underarm protection affording FIE level 800N protection.

Sword arm and leg have a double layer of material to give 800N protection.

Blade catcher in the collar.

Easy to wash, comes out sparkling white time after time.

The safest 350 Newton clothing available in the world."

Competition: The best 350N full stretch gear that money can buy! This clothing is made from a full two way stretch material that is light and comfortable to give you great freedom of movement. The material is sparkling titanium white and has a very smooth finish that doesn’t bobble and washes really easily. They are lined with a stylish grey contrasting Transpor ® “dry layer™”. Transpor® is in fact much more than a wicking material it has an inner transport layer and then an outside wicking layer bonded into one thin lightweight material. The inner layer transports the moisture away from your skin to the outside layer where the wicking material quickly spreads it out so it has a large surface area and can evaporate quickly. The Dry Layer ™ means that your skin always feels dry and your uniform dries as quickly as possible. For more information on transport® visit http://www.dryfiber.com/. The lining is also treated with Microsan, an anti microbial treatment which helps kill the bacteria that make clothes smell bad so your uniform stays fresher for longer. If you don’t need an FIE uniform then this really is the next best thing!

Click on the links to see how Transpor’s Dry Layer technology works. In these video you can see how a normal wicking material like Under Armour works Video 1 Video 2"

Why don't you make an appointment to go and see Craig in the FDN store? He carries both the Competition and I think the FWF FIE which will probebly be tprety much the same as the Allstar/Uhlmann you are looking at...

Alex