07-25-2007, 03:57 PM
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I would like to know if there is some "proper" i.e. French, Italian ?Russian?, name for the leather(usually) arm covering used by an epee coach? I am used to just calling it an "arm" but the word arm is getting to be very overloaded, "Overloaded" as in C++ terminology.
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07-25-2007, 04:09 PM
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| Most vendors sell it as a 'sleeve.'
To borrow from the terminology of the suit of plate armour:
Vambrace, English
Avant-Bras, French
Bracciali, Italian
French for leather sleeve would literally be bras cuir.
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07-25-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jjefferies  "Overloaded" as in C++ terminology. |
[geek warning]
Of course, C++ doesn't have a patent on overloading, Most OO programming languages have some concept of it; maybe even some non-OO languages (but that would be outside my experience).
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07-25-2007, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jjefferies I would like to know if there is some "proper" i.e. French, Italian ?Russian?, name for the leather(usually) arm covering used by an epee coach? I am used to just calling it an "arm" but the word arm is getting to be very overloaded, "Overloaded" as in C++ terminology. | i wish c++ would just die!
if you arnt writing games or graphics, then you dont need it
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07-25-2007, 06:24 PM
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| Why else would you need computers, if not for freakin graphics?!?!?!
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07-25-2007, 07:35 PM
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| Sorry folks, looks like I jacked this thread pretty badly. And mighty fast too!
My Bad. 
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07-25-2007, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by peet Sorry folks, looks like I jacked this thread pretty badly. And mighty fast too!
My Bad.
-p | SOoo Bad, So fast. We gonna have to call you "Da Jack".
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07-26-2007, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lemon__fresh i wish c++ would just die!
if you arnt writing games or graphics, then you dont need it
so stop using it | Jonathan, I have no answer for your question. I just came to continue the thread hijack.
If you, Mr. Lemony Snicket, tell me you recommend Java for everything I will pop your arm off and push you over with it.  Sorry. Just being silly. Really, though, I wish people who denigrate "ALL LANGUAGES OTHER THAN THE ONE TRUE LANGUAGE _(fill in the blank)_!" would die. Or wait, I wish they'd just grow up (which eventually leads to dying). Almost every language (except Java) has a purpose. Even if that purpose is just to turn out code with the least effort based on leveraging the huge exisiting base of libraries. C++ has lots of applications were it is the best language.
-philip
p.s. Java is okay too. I was just taking a guess at what language you were a booster of since I seem to get that the most often from Java folks. If your only tool is a virtual machine, all problems look like stack operations.
"Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!" 
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07-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jjefferies SOoo Bad, So fast. We gonna have to call you "Da Jack". | No, we'll call him Sweetums because, you know, Jack isn't his name, it's his job. 
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07-27-2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by seven6ty Why else would you need computers, if not for freakin graphics?!?!?! | Detecting that a circuit has been closed move than 120ms ago, and so keeping another circuit that was closed from turning on a light? | |
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07-27-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tbryan No, we'll call him Sweetums because, you know, Jack isn't his name, it's his job. |
I just really don't know what to think about that one.... 
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07-27-2007, 09:23 PM
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Detecting that a circuit has been closed move than 120ms ago, and so keeping another circuit that was closed from turning on a light?
| That's what electronics are for. You surely don't need a computer to do that one simple job, do you??? Ya know, like the ones that they put in scoring boxes for fencing, right? 
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07-27-2007, 10:25 PM
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I fence to escape that blighted life of time wasted in front of a radiating light source. The only true useful use of a computer is to warm the fuzzy butt of a cat sleeping on top of it. And the only reason I program is that it is slightly but only slightly better than rolling drunks and druggies in the Mission to make my floor fees. And yes I know people who have claimed that they prefer dealing with drunks and druggies.
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Originally Posted by peet I just really don't know what to think about that one.... | It only makes sense if you happen to remember The Muppet Movie.
For those who love to kill humor by having it explained... in The Muppet Movie, they need to jack up a car, and they call him out. He's so big, he just lifts the car, like a car jack. They call him "Jack," but Sweetums corrects them: "Jack not name; jack job!" So, when jjeffries said that we'd call you "Da Jack"...
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07-28-2007, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tbryan It only makes sense if you happen to remember The Muppet Movie.
For those who love to kill humor by having it explained... in The Muppet Movie, they need to jack up a car, and they call him out. He's so big, he just lifts the car, like a car jack. They call him "Jack," but Sweetums corrects them: "Jack not name; jack job!" So, when jjeffries said that we'd call you "Da Jack"...
Oh, nevermind. | ok, yeah, that one went past me.
I haven't seen the muppet movie since i was about 11 years old.
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Originally Posted by counterattack Jonathan, I have no answer for your question. I just came to continue the thread hijack.
If you, Mr. Lemony Snicket, tell me you recommend Java for everything I will pop your arm off and push you over with it. Sorry. Just being silly. Really, though, I wish people who denigrate "ALL LANGUAGES OTHER THAN THE ONE TRUE LANGUAGE _(fill in the blank)_!" would die. Or wait, I wish they'd just grow up (which eventually leads to dying). Almost every language (except Java) has a purpose. Even if that purpose is just to turn out code with the least effort based on leveraging the huge exisiting base of libraries. C++ has lots of applications were it is the best language.
-philip
p.s. Java is okay too. I was just taking a guess at what language you were a booster of since I seem to get that the most often from Java folks. If your only tool is a virtual machine, all problems look like stack operations.
"Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!" | well im not one of those ppl you speak of lol. Im sorry i made such a harsh comment about the beloved bloated c++ .
but java did help to change the focus of new languages, and in my opinion for the better. It also like c/c++ does find its way into alot of applications, albeit mostly through javascript.
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Originally Posted by jjefferies I would like to know if there is some "proper" i.e. French, Italian ?Russian?, name for the leather(usually) arm covering used by an epee coach? I am used to just calling it an "arm" but the word arm is getting to be very overloaded, "Overloaded" as in C++ terminology. | And getting back to the original subject, in Russian there may be some "official" term for this, but I never heard it called anything but "Рукав" (pronounced rookuv)
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