07-07-2007, 10:29 PM
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#1 | | Just Joined
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| To attract more members to your fencing club you should start a website for it or update your current one so its helpful to members. A lot of clubs don't have sites and this makes it hard for new fencers to know about timings of classes and such.
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07-17-2007, 01:35 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 152
| Remember to keep your website updated.
Plus post on all the community activity websites that are out there for your community. | |
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07-17-2007, 04:36 AM
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#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ask.
Posts: 448
| Wow.
You're the same guy that posted advertising your web design firm the other week aren't you?
The post that Craig deleted?
The post a bit like the one you've made in this thread?
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07-17-2007, 06:11 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
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| Not the same guy at all. I don't have a web design firm. Don't do web design. Wish I did.
Still reminding folks to update their websites and keep posting on local bulletin boards and the like. | |
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07-17-2007, 09:05 PM
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#5 | | "The Judge"
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,826
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Originally Posted by ysbadadden  Not the same guy at all. I don't have a web design firm. Don't do web design. Wish I did.
Still reminding folks to update their websites and keep posting on local bulletin boards and the like. | rory wasn't talking about you. | 
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07-17-2007, 09:22 PM
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#6 | | Admin
Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,406
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Originally Posted by computergeek "our sales page" has some good design tips. | Funny, went to the site and did not see one single design tip. This is why the previous posts were deleted - you're prospecting for clients and leaving nothing of value here.
If you have tips, share them - it will provide something of use for some club owners and serve to demonstrate expertise. If you don't really have tips to share, then don't start a thread calling "Hey, get a web site" a "great tip to attract members".
Cheers,
Craig
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07-30-2007, 09:16 AM
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#7 | | Admin
Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by computergeek im sorry if you still think this is an attempt at advertising. the site was for reference to help people get started. | The web page that you reference has 4 headings. None of which provide any sort of reference material. It's a sales page, and in my opinion, a bad one.
If you're going to provide marketing tips, provide them. Your site doesn't even deliver what it promises. That page you want people to go to claims that by clicking on a link you'll get to see your portfolio, but it just links to a page with a single paragraph of text asking for an email before you'll provide any portfolio information.
The post was a transparent attempt at lead generation. If it wasn't, then provide a case study of the before and after of a fencing club or other business that got a web site and used it as a tool to increase business.
Craig
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07-30-2007, 02:19 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| The internet lead me to the clubs I ultimately joined in Minneapolis and later in Atlanta. What got my attention was Class schedule and locations, recent tournament results, and contact information. That's it.
For a general club website, I don't think you need much more than that to generate visits to the club. (Pictures would help). You could do a passable job making a simple website with this info using MS Frontpage, or any other desktop publishing software. | |
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07-30-2007, 04:39 PM
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#9 | | Epee fencing addict
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Glenwood, ny
Posts: 2,147
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Originally Posted by computergeek Siteprosolutions.com has some good design tips. | Shill! 
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07-30-2007, 05:16 PM
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#10 | | "The Judge"
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,826
| to add value to this thread:
i'm a web developer/designer/consultant on the side, so if anyone wants any advice/tips, no solicitation added (i have enough work as it is  ), on anything from constructing a page to traffic generation to whatever else, drop me a PM.
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07-31-2007, 07:44 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by computergeek i dont have a case study but i was looking through the most recent American Fencing magazine issue and there is a club in there that got featured. their site's pretty solid. it says their club is growing. could be a connection between good site and increasing club size.
you clearly do not like to be proven wrong so go ahead and believe that my previous posts were attempts at advertising even though they were not. | OK, come on Isaac, this is stupid.
yes, it's true that your club got featured recently in American Fencing Mag...., their site is ok (maybe better that ok), but it was made by you, and your previous posts were attempts at advertising.
Also,
I'm web designer as well, I'd be willing to take some of your extra business.  | |
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07-31-2007, 09:45 PM
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#12 | | Admin
Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by computergeek you clearly do not like to be proven wrong | I love being proven wrong - it's one of the many ways to learn new things or gain new perspective.
You still haven't provided a case study and your site doesn't provide any references or portfolio - the only content on the site is lead-generation style content, not educational content.
Provide us a case study - show how young fencing club wasn't getting anything, but then with a balanced diet of clean web site, advertisements in local parent/kid publication, and good process for lead capture and follow-up went from 10 to 100 members over 6 months.
That would be meaty stuff that full time clubs would drool over and would probably get some sort of featured story status in one of the newsletters.
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08-01-2007, 10:03 AM
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#13 | | Feline Groovy
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tidewater VA
Posts: 674
| Speaking as a coach, club-runner, and casual webgeek, I'm with Craig and Co. on this one. Your original post(s) could have been phrased to convey the message that having a site is very useful for a club. Your actual phrasing is 'having a website is helpful AND mysite has some design tips if you'd like to take a look.' But as Craig said, there's not a single design tip on your site. The entire site is geared to sell. So Craig didn't misquote you, he rephrased you in a way that was entirely accurate based on a review of your site. Your site boils down to, 'Pay Us To Do It For You!' THAT'S the kiss of death to your credibility in my eyes.
To any club folk that are still reading this thread, having a website IS a major benefit. It has to be easy to navigate, easy to glance over, and kept relatively current, however, to be useful. If you do the design yourself, have someone completely unfamiliar with your site and club review it for you and LISTEN TO THEIR FEEDBACK. If they don't 'get it,' the problem's likely with the site, not with them. (This is the hardest thing for a programmer or designer to swallow, btdt.  ) Make adjustments accordingly and try again. | |
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08-01-2007, 11:20 PM
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#14 | | Just Joined
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| ok. sorry. phrased thread wrong. please disregard it. thanks.
btw SFFencer that is not my name... | |
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08-08-2007, 01:05 PM
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#15 | | Member
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sunnyvale, CA 94086
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| This is very interesting....
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08-09-2007, 01:01 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: IL
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Originally Posted by computergeek ok. sorry. phrased thread wrong. please disregard it. thanks.
btw SFFencer that is not my name... | I think it IS your name..
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