07-02-2007, 12:29 PM
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| Best glue for top-gluing epee?
What is a good glue for the top glue on a newly-wired epee? I've tried the flexible silicone stuff (sometimes called RTV), but it didn't stick very well. Any other suggestions?
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07-02-2007, 01:09 PM
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| It depends more on how you prepare the blade and use the glue rather than the type....you;ll get all sorts of responses from people who use different glues.
I use superglue, myself...but not the Duco stuff you typically find in hardware stores....it's a bit brittle, and when the glue fractures, that's when you start getting wire popouts. I use a more flexible type made by Bob Smith Industries (there's a link somewhere in a previous thread, but I can;t find it)...you can get the stuff in almost any hobby store that deals with RC model toys...it's got a pink label.
The important thing on whatever glue you use is that it be a gap-filer type so it completely encases the wire and makes it to the blade.
But regardless of the glue, if you don't properly prepare ther blade in teh first place, you're asking for a failed wire job. You MUST get the blade clean....you want nice, bright, shiny metal in the groove. I find a Dremel and a diamond cutting wheel work VERY well for this purpose.
Even if you soak the blade in acetone overnight to get rid of any glue, you syill have to et rid of the residue, or else the glue won't stick to the blade. | |
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07-02-2007, 10:32 PM
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| If you can't wire them better, then try ZAP.
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07-03-2007, 12:22 PM
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| For top glue, Bostik works well. It's made in Germany. I haven't seen it around in hardware stores, but PBT carries it.
Personally, for regluing epees I use a thick cyanoacrylate like Loctite gel. I guess I don't have the patience for standard glues. | |
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07-05-2007, 09:36 AM
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| Fletch-Tite. It's archery fletching glue. I worship the stuff. You can get it at archery shops or hunting shops that sell archery stuff.
Fletch-Tite is flexible, the glue comes out in a thin bead (no wiping with your finger) and it actually shrinks as it dries. I can fill the groove with fletch-tite and when I go back to it 24 hours later, the glue has shrunk to a thin coating around the wire, holding it firmly to the blade. just make sure the wire is in the bottom of the groove.
And fletch-tite has a very interesting smell.  | |
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07-05-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lefty_monster  Fletch-Tite. It's archery fletching glue. I worship the stuff. You can get it at archery shops or hunting shops that sell archery stuff. | Great suggestion! I also shoot archery, so I get two glues for one!! | |
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07-15-2007, 09:21 PM
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| The best for wires from the zap group is the zap-ca (pink bottle).This is the only glue I use. Just for refernce: the small bottle of this stuff will wire about 40+ blades. Reminder about superglue (CA) lesser is better!
Gary Spruill Quote:
Originally Posted by JEC If you can't wire them better, then try ZAP. |
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07-23-2007, 07:41 PM
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| one more vote for fletch-tite. I myself have only used it once, but the wire lasted until the blade broke and it was the easiest wiring job I ever did. the only problem is I haven't been able to find it. I'll keep looking though.
ps. I have a few more hearsay votes from the out of town fencers in my club right now. | |
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07-24-2007, 01:03 AM
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| I've started with Duco (Coach swore by it), and haven't had any problems as long as the blade was prepared properly. Tried superglue in emergencies, but I found it too brittle and prone to pop-outs (though that might have been due to the less than ideal blade prep...).
Now I cannot find Duco up in my area (moved a few years back), so I've switched to Fletch-tite. Once again, the blade preparation is paramount (cannot stress this enough), but it works just fine.
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07-26-2007, 05:03 PM
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| Zap a Gap can be found at any hobby store. It's very thin glue and runs down the blade. A few drops on one end of the blade, a few drops on the other end of the blade. If you dump it on the wire, it'll run onto the tang or into the barrel.
Have you tried the glue jigs? They hold the wire down in the deepest part of the groove on the forte, which is where the blade doesn't bend. They are a life saver!!!!!!!!!
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07-26-2007, 09:07 PM
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| Are you sure you are talking about Zap a Gap? Zap a Gap is not all that runny and not all that fast. The pink Zap CA is thin and fast, the green Zap a Gap is thicker and slower. Zap a Gap may be a bit easier for some folks wiring epees. The regular pink Zap is the best for foils, and works fine for epee. | |
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