06-27-2007, 05:23 PM
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| Getting a ref to clarify "With The Halt?" (tangent from other thread)
Until we can reshape the world to our liking and eradicate the phrase, "with the halt," what do you think is the best way to get a ref to clarify himself in awarding such touches?
(Oops. Peet prompted quick edit. Thanks.)
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06-27-2007, 05:35 PM
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| I believe the offending phrase is "with the halt".
Having said that, the only line of questioning that will have any hope of getting you what you want is:
"Sir/ma'am, what was the reason for the halt?"
And then having gotten the answer (x):
"Sir/ma'am, did the action that scored begin before or after (x)?"
Note that these questions make it pretty clear to the ref what you're trying to do, and most any ref will give the answers that support the call they've made, whether those answers reflect what actually happened or not.
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06-27-2007, 06:06 PM
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| I think that is the best way that "with the halt" can be explained. I agree with Redblade that the use of that phrase needs to be extinguished. |
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06-27-2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by peet Look at me, I'm peet and I'm soooooo smart! | fixed. 
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06-27-2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RebelFencer fixed.  |
wow.
I didn't realize that answer came across like that.
I certainly didn't mean it that way.
Apologies if it sounded like that to anyone else....
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06-27-2007, 09:40 PM
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06-27-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by peet wow.
I didn't realize that answer came across like that.
I certainly didn't mean it that way.
Apologies if it sounded like that to anyone else....
-p | Didn't sound that way to me, either. Did you recently deny Rebel multiple touches because they were with the halt? ;D |
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06-27-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by peet Apologies if it sounded like that to anyone else....
-p | Not even a little. |
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06-27-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by peet wow.
I didn't realize that answer came across like that.
I certainly didn't mean it that way.
Apologies if it sounded like that to anyone else....
-p | NONONONO. Peet, I'm just joking around with you. Sorry, I suppose it might have come across negatively.
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06-27-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RebelFencer NONONONO. Peet, I'm just joking around with you. Sorry, I suppose it might have come across negatively. |
Oh, ok.
Someday they're gonna invent this really cool forum feature where the poster's tone of voice is captured, and we'll have fewer misunderstandings....
cheers!
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06-27-2007, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RebelFencer Look at me, I'm RebelFencer and I'm soooooo funny! | For everyone who had trouble reading the tone in his post.  |
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06-27-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tbryan For everyone who had trouble reading the tone in his post.  | ...
You are so disavowed. 
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06-27-2007, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RebelFencer ...
You are so disavowed.  | you gonna be at nationals? if yes, i have a fun prank to play on peet |
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06-28-2007, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle you gonna be at nationals? if yes, i have a fun prank to play on peet | Okay, but we'll all have to promise to keep it a secret so he won't suspect anything!
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06-28-2007, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle you gonna be at nationals? if yes, i have a fun prank to play on peet | I was gonna be...but last minute flight troubles cockblocked me. Oh well, at least it'll give me another year to train. You me and TotD should do an Epee' team next year.
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06-28-2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt Okay, but we'll all have to promise to keep it a secret so he won't suspect anything!
-B | But why would we say it in the open? He has to suspect that we're smarter than that... so he has to believe that the prank is a ruse. But then he has to think that we'd think that he'd think that, so he can accept it at face value. But then there's the possibility that he could think we would think that he would think...
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06-28-2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RebelFencer I was gonna be...but last minute flight troubles cockblocked me. Oh well, at least it'll give me another year to train. You me and TotD should do an Epee' team next year. | thats definitely a team that could pass the first round Quote:
Originally Posted by oiuyt Okay, but we'll all have to promise to keep it a secret so he won't suspect anything!
-B | or maybe i just said that to make him jumpy because (i don't think) he knows who i am or what i look like
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06-28-2007, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle maybe i just said that to make him jumpy because (i don't think) he knows who i am or what i look like | You're not the robot Santa from Futurama? |
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06-28-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HDG You're not the robot Santa from Futurama? | God HDG, you ruin everything!!
(This was a joke, HDG is in actuality a pleasant poster on f.net. I'm not sure I've actually met him in real life although we are members of the same section.)
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06-28-2007, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RebelFencer (This was a joke, HDG is in actuality a pleasant poster on f.net. I'm not sure I've actually met him in real life although we are members of the same section.) | Erring on the side of caution regarding the tonation of the post now?  |
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