06-07-2007, 03:25 PM
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| Mending a Roll-Bag
Okay, so resewing the seams when they pop is an easy, if all-too-frequent, endeavor. The question is, what recommendations do folks on here have about mending holes in the fabric and places where the seam popped because the fabric, not the thread, broke?
My bag gets a decent amount of use and those airport luggage handlers are none too kind - I don't want my mending giving way and all my weapons coming out the bottom. | 
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06-07-2007, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by qatet  those airport luggage handlers are none too kind - I don't want my mending giving way and all my weapons coming out the bottom. | get a hard case... 
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06-07-2007, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KidLazy get a hard case... | Heh. Harder to mend those! Also harder to fit four of them in the trunk of my little station wagon, although I have once managed four fencers, two hard cases, one roll bag, and one standard bag. I no longer have any clue how I did that and have no desire to try it again. | |
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06-07-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by qatet ...harder to fit four of them in the trunk of my little station wagon... | FOUR!?! 
Are you that high maintenance? It only a tournament... | |
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06-07-2007, 06:52 PM
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| I thought I was the only who tried to mend a rolling bag! ( I replaced a zipper the day before leaving for summer nats -) My local shoe repair wouldn't touch the bag, so next time I may try one of the outfits that repairs camping equipment. I suggest trying to use the outdoor equipment (tent) repair kits . Use glue and hand sew patches. You may have to use seam or twill tape even on the patch, so the new ( replacement) seam has something more than just the bag to grab onto. | |
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06-07-2007, 07:42 PM
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| Or send it to me to do
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06-07-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KidLazy FOUR!?!
Are you that high maintenance? It only a tournament... | Coaches often have to transport more than one fencer and more than one bag.
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06-08-2007, 01:02 AM
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| Send it to Tim to do.
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06-09-2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by qatet Okay, so resewing the seams when they pop is an easy, if all-too-frequent, endeavor. The question is, what recommendations do folks on here have about mending holes in the fabric and places where the seam popped because the fabric, not the thread, broke? | 1. If it's a rip where the fabric has parted but all the threads are still there, you can close the opening with any number of stitch styles: from a simple down-and-in, up-and-out repetition to a super tight baseball stitch.
Stronger stitches are usually more tedious and time consuming. What's your threshold for time and effort?
2. If it's a hole where threads are actually missing, then you'll have to patch. The patch should be of equal or stronger material and comfortably larger in all directions than the hole it's to repair.
In both instances use very strong thread/twine. I'd recommend sail maker's supplies and tools for such repairs; the needles hold up to the thickest of fabrics and the twines will too.
Plan your repair to anticipate continued stress to the area you're repairing (that's most likely why it failed in the first place). Continue the stitching and patch well beyond the damaged area, and in the direction that's going to best resist that continuing stress.
Lastly, I've successfully used pop rivets at stress points AFTER the stitching/patching was finished to add even more durability. If you try this, ensure that the rivets go BETWEEN the threads of the cloth rather than breaking them in order to pass through.
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06-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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| Bill is correct, send it to Tim. His wife and even kids do a fantastic job with a sewing machine. Be willing to bet, they can solve your problem.
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Originally Posted by fencerbill Send it to Tim to do. |
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06-09-2007, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JMcC 2. If it's a hole where threads are actually missing, then you'll have to patch. The patch should be of equal or stronger material and comfortably larger in all directions than the hole it's to repair. | Use canvas for the patch and put it inside. In fact if you have a multitude of little holes where blade tangs have punched through, double up the entire end.
Hot melt glue does not adnere well to the rubberized fabric that many roll bags are made from. Use some kind of rubber based glue, there are many
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Originally Posted by JMcC Lastly, I've successfully used pop rivets at stress points AFTER the stitching/patching was finished to add even more durability. If you try this, ensure that the rivets go BETWEEN the threads of the cloth rather than breaking them in order to pass through. | Pop rivets work very well where the stitching of straps has given way. Even better when you use fender washers inside and outside along with the pop rivets.
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06-09-2007, 07:56 PM
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| All of this is extremely helpful. Thank you. I've finished up everything except the most time-consuming parts - reinforcing the entire bottom (if it's standing upright) of the bag, which should be easy enough, and redoing one of the bottom (again, if it's standing upright) seams, where the fabric of one half is completely frayed at the seam. That last one is taking a bit more thought, as it is certainly a high-impact part of the bag.
As a poor grad student who is a decent hand with a needle I'm more inclined to fix things by hand than pay somebody else to do it (no offense to the Loomis skills), but if it's still perplexing my at Nationals I may just pack carefully and give in to the more money-intensive suggestions. | |
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