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    Confirmed list for Nationals

    For those of you who have e-mail addresses on record, you should have received the confirmed entry list for Nationals as I just have.

    I imagine that it will be posted on the website shortly as well
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    " ... or spend fifty years learning to begin to learn to beat your adversary at fencing. After that you can start on mathematics, until it is time to learn to plough.” White, T.H. The Once and Future King (emphasis added)

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    I checked both my e-mail accounts, and I haven't gotten anything.
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    I can't think of anything to put down there!

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    Maybe I am special?

    If it is not posted on the website today and, if someone will tell me how to send an attachment to the forum, i will send my copy.
    " ... or spend fifty years learning to begin to learn to beat your adversary at fencing. After that you can start on mathematics, until it is time to learn to plough.” White, T.H. The Once and Future King (emphasis added)

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    Confirmed list appears to be available here:

    http://www.usfencing.org/usfa/compon...rtdown/id,795/

    AND as a result of a very unfortunate incident involving a company fax machine and the wrong fax number, my entry didn't get sent in until yesterday and my name is on the list. So I'd say it's nicely up to date.

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    The number of entries for the Div II/III events are fewer than last year.
    Please excuse any typos but here are last year's compared to this year's totals.
    DIV II ME 181, 121
    DIV II MF 224, 155
    DIV II MS 182, 116
    DIV II WE 141, 96
    DIV II WF 177, 124
    DIV II WS 97, 79
    DIV III ME 213, 97
    DIV III MF 211, 131
    DIV III MS 195, 101
    DIV III WE 147, 105
    DIV III WF 177, 124
    DIV III WS 98, 68

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacup View Post
    The number of entries for the Div II/III events are fewer than last year.
    Please excuse any typos but here are last year's compared to this year's totals.
    DIV II ME 181, 121
    DIV II MF 224, 155
    DIV II MS 182, 116
    DIV II WE 141, 96
    DIV II WF 177, 124
    DIV II WS 97, 79
    DIV III ME 213, 97
    DIV III MF 211, 131
    DIV III MS 195, 101
    DIV III WE 147, 105
    DIV III WF 177, 124
    DIV III WS 98, 68
    that would be due to the change in qual path

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacup View Post
    The number of entries for the Div II/III events are fewer than last year.

    DIV III ME 213, 97
    That is pretty amazing

    One of my sons is fencing in this event and he will be very surprised.

    The youth events we checked this morning and are not as different for the three we looked at:
    Y10ME last year 40 this year 52
    Y12ME last year 94 this year 92
    Y10MF last year 103 this year 107

    I thought that with Miami being off the beaten path that maybe fewer people would go, but maybe you are right about it being the qualifiers.
    " ... or spend fifty years learning to begin to learn to beat your adversary at fencing. After that you can start on mathematics, until it is time to learn to plough.” White, T.H. The Once and Future King (emphasis added)

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    Quote Originally Posted by passata_sotto View Post
    I thought that with Miami being off the beaten path that maybe fewer people would go, but maybe you are right about it being the qualifiers.
    We're not exactly the antipodes.

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    I'd rather go to Miami than to Atlanta. At least there will be a beach and sand very close to the venue (down on first floor for me).

    I think it's very much due to the qualifying paths being much tighter. I think perhaps we should go to a 30% instead of 25%. But in reality, it's just plain hocus-pocus in determining what the proper percentage number should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDG View Post
    We're not exactly the antipodes.
    Sorry to offend

    I lived in Miami for a year once and it was different.... the weather sort of reminds me of Atlanta where I lived for sixteen years and am glad I dont live there now. Miami is a great place to visit.

    What I really meant about out of the way was that for people coming from anywhere but the east coast you pretty much have to through Atlanta or somewhere else and our club is finding the tickets rather expensive.

    I am sure that the smaller numbers are due to the new qualifiers and not to the location.
    " ... or spend fifty years learning to begin to learn to beat your adversary at fencing. After that you can start on mathematics, until it is time to learn to plough.” White, T.H. The Once and Future King (emphasis added)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    Confirmed list appears to be available here:

    http://www.usfencing.org/usfa/compon...rtdown/id,795/

    AND as a result of a very unfortunate incident involving a company fax machine and the wrong fax number, my entry didn't get sent in until yesterday and my name is on the list. So I'd say it's nicely up to date.
    Bleh. Four teams and two individuals from our club (with faxed confirmations in hand) missing from the list.

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    It is nicely up to date, however, they put me in the wrong WE division. Epee isn't my primary weapon, I'm just doing it because I like it and there was only one other girl at the Indiana Division qualifiers, so I thought, why not? However, I don't want to fence it the day before Div2 WS. ::sigh:: Hopefully they'll fix it and let me fence Div3 WE instead...
    Dammit Harry, that's not a plan, that's a loony tune!

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    Confirmed entries with classifications and rankings are posted.

    The USFA website has posted confirmed entry lists by event with classifications and rankings. They are requesting that fencers confirm classifications and rankings which are included in these postings.

    Veteran and Youth events currently contain rankings. Senior, Junior, and Cadet events will have rankings added by June 19. Ignore the prefix letters in the ranking.

    http://www.usfencing.org/usfa/content/view/1798/100/
    Last edited by teacup; 06-16-2007 at 03:18 PM.

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    There are 190 fencers registered for Y12MF, the largest event. Next biggest is Y14 with 177. None of the other events will require a table of 256.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    There are 190 fencers registered for Y12MF, the largest event. Next biggest is Y14 with 177. None of the other events will require a table of 256.
    Tell me about it - one of my sons is fencing in Y12MF - assuming he gets a buy that is five des just to table of 8 -its going to be a long event - good thing that there is no repechage in Y12
    " ... or spend fifty years learning to begin to learn to beat your adversary at fencing. After that you can start on mathematics, until it is time to learn to plough.” White, T.H. The Once and Future King (emphasis added)

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    Quote Originally Posted by passata_sotto View Post
    good thing that there is no repechage in Y12
    or, ya know, anything else at SN.

    -m

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    Quote Originally Posted by passata_sotto View Post
    Tell me about it - one of my sons is fencing in Y12MF - assuming he gets a buy that is five des just to table of 8 -its going to be a long event - good thing that there is no repechage in Y12
    On the one hand, thank god it's the first thing in the morning. On the other hand: I'd really rather do D1ME or JWET and am afraid everybody who has any foil rating will get sucked into this. On the gripping hand, it'll only be the second day, hopefully the parents won't have had time to work themselves into a frenzy yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    On the one hand, thank god it's the first thing in the morning. On the other hand: I'd really rather do D1ME or JWET and am afraid everybody who has any foil rating will get sucked into this. On the gripping hand, it'll only be the second day, hopefully the parents won't have had time to work themselves into a frenzy yet.
    You are very funny This is on our second day of four events for my youngest fencing and I have two who are fencing (div3me and div3ms) on Sat the 7th - a very long nine days.

    Just because of this event I am thinking of starting a thread on why a fencer should have to fence at an SYC or youth NAC in order to fence Y12s at Nationals (I know there are not Nationals youth events but everyone knows what I mean). - Maybe even have to be on the points list - there are Y10s and Y12s who do not fence competitively throughout the year who go to this event and maybe some type of qualifier besides an ryc would help cut back on the numbers.

    ps one could laugh at the fact that this is Y12s but it is going to be a B2 tournament because of at least one A and one B and lots of cs, ds, and es.
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    Quote Originally Posted by passata_sotto View Post
    ps one could laugh at the fact that this is Y12s but it is going to be a B2 tournament because of at least one A and one B and lots of cs, ds, and es.
    Not necessarily, both the A and the B as well as two Cs need to make the top 8 for it to be a B2 event.

    Not saying that it is unlikely, but with only one A and one B, should one of them drop a pool bout and they end up running into each other in the 16, no B2 event.

    -w

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    Just because of this event I am thinking of starting a thread on why a fencer should have to fence at an SYC or youth NAC in order to fence Y12s at Nationals
    They have to fence at one of those in order to force them to have an experience with a tournament that is hopefully at least resembling in compliance with national standards. That way Summer Nationals isn't their first tournament, though it might be their second.

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