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    USFA Membership listing and new Card system

    From the USFA website:

    listings of all members and ratings, plus new barcode card.
    any thoughts?
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    *falls out of chair*

    Nice!


    Um...wow!

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    Technology....god forbid:P

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    That does look pretty nice.
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    Hmmm, I often don't have internet access while running a tournament (primitive, I know, but I don't see a reason to pay for wifi that I'd use a couple times a month). I wonder if they could do a downloadable file of ratings, to plug into the different software programs.

    I guess that everybody needs to run their tournaments on computers now, since they'll need access to the most recent ratings, and they won't be on anything handy like a membership card.

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    Oh my heck!!! I love it. "Waterproof and tearproof"!!!

    Verification of age and internet updating of ratings!!!

    What more could you ask for - cant wait until my boys get theirs.
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    I can't imagine what the bar code is for. Electronic registration check-in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokey View Post
    I can't imagine what the bar code is for. Electronic registration check-in?
    Now all a tournament organiser needs is a laptop, wifi, a bar scanner and the appropriate access to the USFA database.
    au revoir

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    Okay, the huge excel file is done. Facts of note:

    1. Many of the birthdays are clearly wrong.

    2. There are about 18400 members of the USFA right now.

    3. There are no triple As, and only 7 double As. None of these are double A07s, and only one is foil-sabre. (The rest are foil-epee).

    4. Sabre has 101 As. Epee has 367 (!). Foil has 207.

    5. Sabre has 1861 rated fencers. Epee has 3244, Foil has 3420. This means that foil and sabre are at least fairly close in terms of percentage of As, while epee is way out there.

    There's alot more stuff to be done to this, but I'll leave that for another time.
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    The file's too big for me to attach. I can email it to anyone if they want, or alternatively, I'll give it to someone with more attachment space who can host it.
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    So this is also a grat way to see whether or not organizers actually turned in the ratings info from your last tournament to the USFA or whether they just posted it on FRED...fun.
    I now dangle to the left....my tassle. Get your minds out of the gutter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbiggs View Post
    Okay, the huge excel file is done. Facts of note:

    1. Many of the birthdays are clearly wrong.

    2. There are about 18400 members of the USFA right now.

    3. There are no triple As, and only 7 double As. None of these are double A07s, and only one is foil-sabre. (The rest are foil-epee).

    4. Sabre has 101 As. Epee has 367 (!). Foil has 207.

    5. Sabre has 1861 rated fencers. Epee has 3244, Foil has 3420. This means that foil and sabre are at least fairly close in terms of percentage of As, while epee is way out there.

    There's alot more stuff to be done to this, but I'll leave that for another time.
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    The file's too big for me to attach. I can email it to anyone if they want, or alternatively, I'll give it to someone with more attachment space who can host it.

    I just completed doing my EXCEL file too. There is a lot of good information. Food for several threads.
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    Interesting pieces of useless info:

    Although there are about 30 entries with unknown age, the list shows that:

    - Oldest woman fencer - 1900 - NJ div (followed by another one from 1915 also in NJ)
    - Oldest woman with rating - 1933 - E in Saber and Epee
    - Oldest woman with C+ rating - 1939 - Epee
    - Oldest woman with B+ rating - 1946 - Epee
    - Oldest woman with A rating - 1949 - Epee
    - Oldest woman with B+ rating in Foil - 1951
    - Oldest woman with B+ rating in Saber - 1951 (Peach)
    - Veteran female fencers - 789 fencers
    - Youngest woman fencer - YOB 2006 ?

    - Oldest male fencer - 1904 - one in Metropolitan and another in VA
    - Oldest man with rating - 1919 - D in Saber (then 2 D's in Foil 1924, 1925)
    - Oldest man with C+ rating - 1931 - Epee (Don Benge -1933 was 2nd with C in foil and epee)
    - Oldest man with B+ rating - 1933 - Epee (Miernik and Bob Hurley)
    - Oldest man with A rating - 1937 - Epee (Campe and Elliott)
    - Oldest man with B+ rating in Foil - 1937 (Elliott who also has A in Epee)
    - Oldest man with B+ rating in Saber - 1940 (Nichols)
    - Veteran male fencers - 2424 fencers

    VETERAN FENCERS comprise 17.2% of all fencers
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbiggs View Post
    Modern technology is allowing me to put it up, but it's in .zip form. Also it's split into three separate .xls files.



    In other news, there are 18016 members of the USFA as of April fourth, unless I made a mistake somewhere. It's probably a good approximation.

    The first fencer in the U.S. in alphabetical order is Aaron, and the last is Zysk . (I've always wondered about that one)

    There are 5438 female members of the USFA as opposed to 12578 male.

    I have 18131 fencers (?)

    Great Lakes - 1406
    Midwest - 947
    Rocky Mountain - 1066
    MidAtlantic - 2923
    Pacific Coast - 2558
    Southwest - 1500
    NorthAtlantic - 3579
    Southeast - 2579
    Pacific NW - 974
    Metropolitan - 599
    Epee is the Sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEC View Post
    I have 18131 fencers (?)

    Great Lakes - 1406
    Midwest - 947
    Rocky Mountain - 1066
    MidAtlantic - 2923
    Pacific Coast - 2558
    Southwest - 1500
    NorthAtlantic - 3579
    Southeast - 2579
    Pacific NW - 974
    Metropolitan - 599
    Darn! I must have missed one .

    I'll look through it tomorrow and post an updated sheet. Thanks for double-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEC View Post
    I have 18131 fencers (?)

    Great Lakes - 1406
    Midwest - 947
    Rocky Mountain - 1066
    MidAtlantic - 2923
    Pacific Coast - 2558
    Southwest - 1500
    NorthAtlantic - 3579
    Southeast - 2579
    Pacific NW - 974
    Metropolitan - 599
    How about National Division? (Just for curiosity's sake)

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    Flipping to the other side of the age divide: parents here asked me to remove birth years from results pages on the web, with the idea that this somehow protects their children. Considering that the dates are published on AskFred, and that only 12 years old and younger would be in a Y12, I've never considered that to be meaningful protection, but did it to make people happy. Now that the ages are published in easily browsed and sorted format, it's even less likely to insulate children from having their ages found out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbiggs View Post
    Darn! I must have missed one ...
    or I repeated copying a division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Flipping to the other side of the age divide: parents here asked me to remove birth years from results pages on the web, with the idea that this somehow protects their children. Considering that the dates are published on AskFred, and that only 12 years old and younger would be in a Y12, I've never considered that to be meaningful protection, but did it to make people happy. Now that the ages are published in easily browsed and sorted format, it's even less likely to insulate children from having their ages found out.
    I just figured out how YOUNG the girl is who whooped up on me! You might want to remove the ages to protect some fragile male egos!

    But I really LIKE the postings and the new cards. I mean if UPS can tell me where my package is at any given moment, why shouldn't I be able to see what the ranks are for me and others in my division? (Or look up an old college fencing buddy if I have an idea of what division he lives in!)
    I wish I had something witty to put here.

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    Falls off a chair in shock...

    We've got technology!!!!!

    Wow.... wow... wow....

    Its only about 5 years late though.

    Now, if they would also post USFA Club/school information.
    Last edited by oso97; 04-10-2007 at 11:22 AM.
    That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again.

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    Jeff, I was also very surprised that these amount of data was posted on the USFA website.
    Epee is the Sword.

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