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NAC-Country Code-Duel Citizenship I have duel citizenship, and the USFA knows me as a US citizen, but on the back of my jacket I have my other country's code. Would this be a problem competing in the NAC? Any help would be much appreciated.
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a) It's dual citizenship. Duel citizenship is citizenship for the purpose of dueling.
b) People from lots of different countries fence at NACs; I've seen ISR, CAN, USA, LUX, and probably a couple other nationalities fencing there. You'll be fine. Unless you're from Canada, I think you do need USFA membership, though.
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no...it won't, as long as you have your name on either your back leg or your back.
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How would the same situation affect Summer Nationals participants including qualifying rounds? Thru the darkness of Future Past
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 Originally Posted by TooLoftheDeviL  How would the same situation affect Summer Nationals participants including qualifying rounds? The division 3 men's epee winner last year had "PMP" as his country code, and that's not even an actual country.
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Originally Posted by TooLoftheDeviL How would the same situation affect Summer Nationals participants including qualifying rounds? As long as USFA has you as a US citizen or a permanent resident, there shouldn't be any problems. USFA doesn't really care about country affiliation in the national circuit. (From what I've seen.)
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Maybe I should get WTF as my country code. Let's see how long before Sharon Everson's all over me like white on rice.
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Originally Posted by Jay Young As long as USFA has you as a US citizen or a permanent resident, there shouldn't be any problems. USFA doesn't really care about country affiliation in the national circuit. (From what I've seen.) Country affiliation at an NAC is important for seeding purposes. The Bout Committee avoids country conflicts where possible, and Division conflicts in the case of US fencers.
Allen
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Originally Posted by edew Maybe I should get WTF as my country code. Let's see how long before Sharon Everson's all over me like white on rice. I have room for BBQ on my jacket.
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Originally Posted by edew Maybe I should get WTF as my country code. Let's see how long before Sharon Everson's all over me like white on rice. Thanks for the laugh, Eric!!!
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs The division 3 men's epee winner last year had "PMP" as his country code, and that's not even an actual country. Who needs a real country when you're a mother****in' P.I.M.P. ? I now dangle to the left....my tassle. Get your minds out of the gutter.
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Originally Posted by delmet I have duel citizenship, and the USFA knows me as a US citizen, but on the back of my jacket I have my other country's code. Would this be a problem competing in the NAC? Any help would be much appreciated. The first question to answer would be which country are you representing? By having the other country's name on your back, you are representing that country. Like others have said, foreigners come and compete in NACs with their country code all the time. Even though the USFA knows you are a US citizen with dual citizenship, by having the other country code on your back, you are declaring that you represent the other country.
If your intent is to represent the USA, then that opens up a whole other discussion...
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Originally Posted by nahouw The first question to answer would be which country are you representing? By having the other country's name on your back, you are representing that country. Like others have said, foreigners come and compete in NACs with their country code all the time. Even though the USFA knows you are a US citizen with dual citizenship, by having the other country code on your back, you are declaring that you represent the other country.
If your intent is to represent the USA, then that opens up a whole other discussion... Having three big blue letters stenciled onto your jacket doesn't declare anything. Thru the darkness of Future Past
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Originally Posted by edew Maybe I should get WTF as my country code. Let's see how long before Sharon Everson's all over me like white on rice. Or a premptive "DFL"
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Originally Posted by TooLoftheDeviL Having three big blue letters stenciled onto your jacket doesn't declare anything. umm, to the FIE it does....and that is why the country code is on the back....
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Originally Posted by nahouw umm, to the FIE it does....and that is why the country code is on the back.... I'd argue that being submitted to a world cup event by your fencing federation and holding an FIE license obtained through said fencing federation is what declares the representation. One is required to wear the country code of the represented country in FIE competitions (or pick up a free red card each bout, woooo!), but that printing isn't what declares what country an athlete represents.
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Originally Posted by Peach Or a premptive "DFL" That would be me if I ever compete again!
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Originally Posted by edew Maybe I should get WTF as my country code. Let's see how long before Sharon Everson's all over me like white on rice. "WTF"??? What's that mean Eric?? White Tr*sH Fencer?
Somehow that doesn't fit you. From Google:
"World Taekwando Fed"? "Worse than Failure"?
"What the Font?", "Work Time Fun?".
Anyway WTF
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Originally Posted by nahouw The first question to answer would be which country are you representing? By having the other country's name on your back, you are representing that country. Like others have said, foreigners come and compete in NACs with their country code all the time. Even though the USFA knows you are a US citizen with dual citizenship, by having the other country code on your back, you are declaring that you represent the other country.
If your intent is to represent the USA, then that opens up a whole other discussion... How would the USFA know which country anyone is representing? I don't think there was such a field in the NAC registration, so they would have to go with my status as a USFA member, and that is US citizen. But my jacket claims otherwise. Of course, I doubt they would ever realize it, but it is good to know the rule. As far as I am concerned, I couldn't care less which country I am representing.
What country is to the south of WTF?
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Originally Posted by delmet How would the USFA know which country anyone is representing? I don't think there was such a field in the NAC registration, so they would have to go with my status as a USFA member, and that is US citizen. Actually Country, along with Division, club and ratings are ALL tracked at NACs. Just take a look at any of the results lists; for example:
http://www.usfencing.org/usfa/content/view/1572/104/
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