03-14-2007, 05:19 PM
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| competitive spirit
Have a Y14 & high school fencer(Senior) boys. How do you balance the wins vs losses with two very competitive siblings? Obviously, there is an age difference. Any thoughts? Any experiences? | 
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03-14-2007, 05:26 PM
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| I don't think I really understand what you're asking here...
Do you just want a comparison between a younger fencer and an older fencer?
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03-14-2007, 05:48 PM
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| Lock them in a room together and tell them whoever makes it out alive is the one you'll love the most?
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03-14-2007, 06:32 PM
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| I also am not exactly sure what you are asking. Are your boys having a hard time dealing with each other? Is one of them much better than the other and you don't know how to deal with that? If you could be a little more specific with your question I, as well as many others, might be able to help. | |
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03-15-2007, 01:53 PM
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| Well, after the next fight I'd pull the most agressive and least bright one aside and tell him "Congratulations, you've just been... promoted (yeah, that's the ticket!) to fencing sabre."
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03-15-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by seltzerwater  Have a Y14 & high school fencer(Senior) boys. How do you balance the wins vs losses with two very competitive siblings? Obviously, there is an age difference. Any thoughts? Any experiences? | I've been there. The best thing for us was when my son decided he like martial arts better.
It is tough. If the one that wins cannot show his joy and the one that loses can't show his disappointment, the kids will eat their emotions. The best thing for them is to be happy for each other but that is very difficult.
We stressed that fencing are not the measure of a person and that was it. The hurt feelings were still there though. Tell them they can't act out on them.
It is even hard if you encourage the one who does better to help the one that doesnt'. Get them some wacky wackers and have a tournament.
Eeek I don't envy you.
The Momster
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03-16-2007, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by seven6ty Lock them in a room together and tell them whoever makes it out alive is the one you'll love the most? | I agree. This worked well for me and my (former) siblings. | |
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03-16-2007, 01:41 PM
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| My brother doesnt fence, but if he did, I would rather lose to him than anyone else. I would also rather beat him than anyone else (well maybe except Podz). But that's ok. It just has to be understood that during fencing, the relationship is different. You have to turn off the competitiveness after the tournament
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03-16-2007, 03:41 PM
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| Different weapons. One in epee, one in foil or saber. If they don't fence each other it avoids the mess.
Of course you will have to listen to endless rants about why ones weapon is better than the others......
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03-16-2007, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by swordsen Of course you will have to listen to endless rants about why ones weapon is better than the others...... | Where else do you hear that?
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03-16-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by swordsen Different weapons. One in epee, one in foil or saber. If they don't fence each other it avoids the mess. | This avoided a lot of the conflict in our house...that and time (aka maturity). | |
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03-16-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by swordsen Different weapons. One in epee, one in foil or saber. If they don't fence each other it avoids the mess. | I've seen this work very well for multiple sets of siblings, even twins. It's a great idea, unless there is only good instruction in one weapon around you, or both kids are dead set on the same one.
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03-16-2007, 09:02 PM
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| As team mates, they should depend on each other for practice and challenge based stimulus. Try to foster the "Your success, my success... NO! our success!" attitude.
Very professional, very win-win.
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03-16-2007, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RITFencing I've seen this work very well for multiple sets of siblings, even twins. It's a great idea, unless there is only good instruction in one weapon around you, or both kids are dead set on the same one. | Like Metta and Hannah Thompson or Christa and Kayley French. Wait...
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