03-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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03-10-2007, 03:23 AM
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03-10-2007, 09:00 AM
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| Soren Thompson, Ben Ungar and Igor Tikhomirov in top 16 !
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03-10-2007, 10:47 AM
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| Not only that, Benji has beaten Bas Verwijen before, to make the 32s at one of the other world cups. Som Benji has a good chance at the 8s. As for Soren, he has a tough bout, I don't know if he's fenced Robieri before. But good for them! | |
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03-10-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by epeelion  Not only that, Benji has beaten Bas Verwijen before, to make the 32s at one of the other world cups. Som Benji has a good chance at the 8s. As for Soren, he has a tough bout, I don't know if he's fenced Robieri before. But good for them! | I think it was to make the 64 in Kuwait.
Benji's path has been blessed by Moses.
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03-10-2007, 11:04 AM
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| Well, Soren won and Benji lost.
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03-10-2007, 01:02 PM
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| Overall ranking
1 TOURCHINE Igor RUS
2 BOISSE Eric FRA
3 IMRE Geza HUN
3 TAGLIARIOL Matteo ITA
5 THOMPSON Soren USA
6 VERWIJLEN Bas NED
7 LIU Qiang CHN
8 YIN Lianchi CHN
9 TIKHOMIROV Igor CAN
10 JEANNET Fabrice FRA
11 MOTYKA Tomasz POL
12 ROBEIRI Ulrich FRA
13 PENG Jianjun CHN
14 REIZLIN Igor UKR
15 UNGAR Benjamin USA
16 JAN Francois FRA
17 FERNANDEZ Silvio VEN
18 NOVOSJOLOV Nikolai EST
19 CAROZZO Stefano ITA
20 NISHIDA Shogo JPN
21 SCHMID Sven GER
22 ABAJO Jose Luis ESP
23 MEJIAS Wolfgang VEN
24 JARVE Sven EST
25 SICOT Bastien FRA
26 GRUMIER Gauthier FRA
27 BINO Michele ITA
27 POP Adrian ROU
29 KAABERMA Kaido EST
30 TORKILDSEN Sturla NOR
31 TIKHOMIROV Alexey RUS
32 OSHAROV Vitaly UKR
33 CONFALONIERI Diego ITA
34 BOCZKO Gabor HUN
35 KAUTER Michael SUI
36 KELSEY Weston USA
37 FIEDLER Joerg GER
38 WANG Lei CHN
39 JEANNET Jerome FRA
40 MIKOLAJCZAK Krzysztof POL
41 VIDEIRA Joaquim POR
42 ROTA Alfredo ITA
43 ZHANG Yu CHN
44 BERAN Jiri CZE
45 KIM Seung Gu KOR
45 TAYLOR James GBR
47 FEKETE Attila HUN
48 ZAKHAROV Vitali BLR
49 MALMGREN Magnus SWE
50 SAKAMOTO Keisuke JPN
51 ZAWROTNIAK Radoslaw POL
52 SKOROBOGATOV Oleg RUS
53 COUFAL Zdenek CZE
54 NIKISHIN Bogdan UKR
55 CHUMAK Dmytro UKR
55 LIMARDO Ruben VEN
57 MARIK Christoph AUT
58 MORGOEV Vseslav RUS
59 SUNDMAN Joar SWE
60 KOLOBKOV Pavel RUS
61 WIERCIOCH Adam POL
62 CAPEK Martin CZE
63 LIIMETS Aivar EST
64 WILLIS Jonathan GBR
65 JU Hyun Seung KOR
66 LI Guojie CHN
67 KOVACS Ivan HUN
68 FONT Marc ESP
69 JANVIER Benoit FRA
70 MARMILLOD Valentin SUI
71 KARDOLUS Arwin NED
72 MATTERN Cody USA
73 LINTEAU Thomas CAN
74 ALLIKA Marno EST
75 XIE Yongjun CHN
76 ARKOSI Bertalan ROU
77 PIASECKI Bartosz NOR
78 HEINZER Max SUI
79 KIM Won Jin KOR
80 HANSEN Eric USA
81 MEDVEDEV Vitaliy UKR
82 FALCINI Giacomo ITA
83 ANDRZEJUK Robert POL
84 PADAR Tamas HUN
85 AVDEEV Anton RUS
86 KIM Kyoung Suk KOR
87 FISCHER Marcel SUI
88 BONDAR Leonid RUS
89 LARSSON Adam SWE
90 BACKER Fredrik NOR
91 ST-HILAIRE Charles CAN
92 SALM Juri EST
93 NYISZTOR Alexandru ROU
94 MARTINELLI Francesco ITA
95 VANKY Peter SWE
96 NABIL Ahmed EGY
97 SOKOLOV Oleg UKR
98 FONT Jordi ESP
99 YATSYK Ernest UKR
100 LINDBACK Atte SWE
101 TOSHKOV Peter BUL
102 POP I. Adrian ROU
103 LANE Tristan GBR
104 LELION Jean CAN
105 LOIT Meelis EST
106 MESSMER Tobias SUI
107 KORHONEN Jussi FIN
108 SOLOMON Benjamin USA
109 CHALOUPKA Ales CZE
109 GUSTAFSSON Christian SWE
111 BOSSALINI Alessandro ITA
112 PFEIFFER Jens GER
112 VAN DER GOOR Rick NED
114 HAARLEM Christian SWE
115 ALCARRIA Pablo ESP
116 PRACLAWSKI Adam POL
117 DOERFLER Bernd AUT
118 SCHMITT Martin GER
119 ABEND Alexander USA
120 CANTO Ignacio ESP
120 ESPANA David ESP
120 IVANOV Alexaner ISR
123 BAJGORIC Tigram CAN
124 MONICH Dzmitry BLR
125 BAKOS Tarsch CAN
126 DINGL Robert SWE
127 GOMEZ Andres SWE
128 LUDWIKOWSKI Sascha GER
129 CASTANEDA CORTES Juan ESP
130 VAHT Sergei EST
131 BERNIER Victor PUR
132 ABD EL REHIM Ibrahim EGY
133 BAKER Matthew AUS
133 LEBLANC Marc-Andre CAN
133 RIGO Robert Mihaly ROU
136 TIVENIUS Jan SWE
137 PAVLOVSKI Tzimur BLR
138 WENDT Carl-Henrik SWE
139 EL ASHERY Zeyad EGY
140 SEGUIN Jean-Pierre CAN
141 BADE Denis FIN
142 MOERCH Claus NOR
143 FORSSE Tor SWE
144 NATSCHKOV Georgi SUI
144 GRIGORIAN Valery RUS
146 SCHMID Florian AUT
147 MAHMOUD Yasser EGY
147 KELLY Christopher GBR
149 SADOWY Piotr POL
150 OROZCO David VEN
151 ALBREKHT Anzor GEO
152 FRIES Clemens AUT
153 TORNQVIST Mattias SWE
154 LAMON Sebastien SUI
155 AMBROZ Jakub CZE
156 ACKERMANN Rouven GER
157 KULCSAR Krisztian HUN
158 FRISELL Carl SWE
159 VIVIANI Jansson USA
160 BERGDAHL Erik SWE
161 KIM Hee Kang KOR
162 EKSTROM Erik SWE
163 THORNTON James GBR
164 JUNG Jin Sun KOR
165 MAEDA Yusuke JPN
166 MATHE Jorg AUT
167 CHAMBERS Benedict IRL
167 CARRARD Jean-Baptiste SUI
169 BENNETT Thomas GBR
170 LINDQUIST Peter SWE
171 DEN OTTER Wouter NED
172 SEPULVEDA PUERTO Eduardo ESP
173 HERNANDEZ Luymar VEN
174 HOYER Martin CZE
174 AMBROZ Matyas CZE
176 TARKOVSKIJ HEMMI Alexandr NOR
177 AUSTEN Ross AUS
178 MALIY Andriy UKR
179 PICKMAN Leonid AUT
180 PENZO JUNGE Sergio CHI
181 SIEVERT Thomas SWE
182 LEVIT Doron ISR
183 GEDDE-DAHL Nils NOR
184 KRAMARICS Michael Zoltan NOR
185 BARDING Nicolai DEN | |
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03-10-2007, 03:50 PM
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| Pictures from Challenge Bernadotte 2007
Here is a link to photos of this years competition (amazing to get the pictures up so quick! nice with quick updates!). There is a lot of great pictures. http://sportfoto.olsin.se
click on the chB text to get to the pictures. | |
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03-11-2007, 12:22 PM
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| Videos
Videos from the semi-finals and final. http://www.touslesdirects.com/front/...=rubrique&id=4
Edit: team videos are also up now.
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03-11-2007, 01:32 PM
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| Final results from the team event
1 FRANCE FRA
2 POLAND POL
3 RUSSIA RUS
4 KOREA KOR
5 GERMANY GER
6 UKRAINIA UKR
7 USA USA
8 ESTONIA EST
9 HUNGARY HUN
10 SWITZERLAND SUI
11 SPAIN ESP
12 VENEZUELA VEN
13 ITALY ITA
14 NETHERLANDS NED
15 NORWAY NOR
16 CZECH REPUBLIC CZE
17 CANADA CAN
18 CHINA CHN
19 AUSTRIA AUT
20 SWEDEN SWE
21 JAPAN JPN
22 ROMANIA ROU
23 GREAT BRITAIN GBR
24 BELARUS BLR
25 EGYPT EGY | |
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03-11-2007, 09:18 PM
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| Nice! Though the scores versus Germany and France were ugly, the important thing was how we did relative to Canada and Venezuela, right? If so, this was an excellent result. Even if not, top-8 is good! Congrats to the team.
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03-12-2007, 07:55 AM
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| The gallery and the films are interesting with respect to a number of ongoing/recurring conversations here on Fnet.
1) Short v. Tall: Find the photos of Jannet and his Japanese adversary who (at least in the moment the photos were taken) illustrates exactly how not to fence a tall person. That is, at the tall person's distance. If the Japanese fencer had won, we would have seen lots of touches at close distance with prises du fer, IMHO.
2) The passivity rule as interpreted by le haute niveau. The elite seem to have developed some shuck to get around a passivity card. I'm not sure I completely understand it. In Boisse v. Tourchine, at the end of the first period, one or the other gives a small salute outside of distance, signifying that he doesn't want to continue while the other pretends to fence until time. The commentator says (in French) "...and now they're clowning around" after the signal. There is an explanation after which is a bit cut up. Can anyone fill me in on this?
3) The power of the French grip properly employed. In the final, Tourchine beats Boisse at his own game of attack into preparation. He scores one touch in the first period which really must have broken Eric's concentration. It was certainly facilitated by having just an extra centimeter of distance. I think it was that touch that made Eric question his attacks so much that he never really found the right attack distance. Which is exactly how he lost in the Olympic final: trying to find an attack after having taken too many attacks into his prep. The tactical situation Boisse had to overcome would have been more difficult to construct if Tourchine hadn't selected a French grip.
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03-12-2007, 11:27 AM
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| Regarding recent discussions about the use of the transparent mask, i think there are several pictures in the gallery of the fencers with the "ordinary" masks thats capture the emotions very good (and yes, i dont want it to be compulsory with the transparent in epee).
Take a look in the team gallery at the four pictures in the row when the polish team scores the last point against russia, just great pictures. http://www.olsin.se/sportfoto/ | |
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03-12-2007, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by counterattack Nice! Though the scores versus Germany and France were ugly, the important thing was how we did relative to Canada and Venezuela, right? If so, this was an excellent result. Even if not, top-8 is good! Congrats to the team.
-philip |
USA-VEN score was 15:14 for the team event!
I would love to see it or at least hear some stories 
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03-12-2007, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by misha USA-VEN score was 15:14 for the team event!
I would love to see it or at least hear some stories
. | Wish I could give you details, but I wasn't there this time. Maybe ZZ?
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03-13-2007, 01:42 AM
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| That's an incredibly low score for a team bout. Very interesting. | |
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03-13-2007, 06:07 AM
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#17 | | Épéeist Hive Queen
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Originally Posted by Army Fencer Wish I could give you details, but I wasn't there this time. Maybe ZZ? | Sorry, I wasn't able to go there. I do know anisa (forumite) was there, perhaps she can tell more?
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