2008 Cadet and Junior World Championships: new formula for team events

[gladius]

From the FIS Web site (passim):

http://www.federscherma.it/news.asp?i=42830&s=7

FIE ASSIGNs TO ACIREALE THE CADET AND JUNIOR 2008 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS


Lausanne 2/5/2007 - After a long head-to-head competition with Thailand during the meetings last Saturday and Sunday the FIE granted to Acireale (Catania), Italy, the Cadet and Junior World Championships edition of 2008.
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There will be some changes from the technical point of view at these championships. The FIE has decided to try a new formula for the team events replacing the competition by weapon with a mixed weapon event. Both men and women's teams will be made of two foilists, two epeeist, and two sabreists. This is an experiment promoted by some countries, one being Italy. In the words of Giorgio Scarso, President of the FIS, "The revised and corrected formula of the Mediterranean's Championships in Syracuse will be adopted and it could become part of the events at the Olympic games in London in 2012. Acireale will be a kind of a lab experiment for the future of the sport of fencing where the technical aspects and the media impact of this change in the formula of team competitions will be evaluated."


After Beijing 2008, only Junior World Championships will take place. Cadets will compete in continental trials and already starting in March in Serbia, there will be a first experiment.



Note:

Acireale is a town near Catania, in Sicily, by the Etna volcano. The surrounding area and the town itself is rich in culture and tradition. Virtual tourists can check these web sites for information.

http://www.travelpost.com/EU/Italy/S...le/map/6950131


http://sicilia.indettaglio.it/eng/co.../acireale.html

[eac]

Oh, if only the FIE had recall petitions...

[KD5MDK]

Cadets will compete in continental trials and already starting in March in Serbia, there will be a first experiment.

I presume this is in reference to the planned European Cadet Championships, since nowhere else matters anyway.

Edit: Thank you gladius for all your work at bringing fencing news to us.

[fencein2012USA]

So basically there will be no cadet teams from the United States?

[KD5MDK]

There has never been a Cadet Team event. Do you mean "No group of 4 (or whatever) Americans designated as the Cadet National Team? Possibly. We'll still be sending some people to the Pan-Am Junior/Cadet games.

[fencein2012USA]

I was talking about how at every junior/cadet world champiomnships, USA sends 3 cadet fencers for the individual competition. The junior/cadet pan ams are a joke.

[fencerbill]

Originally Posted by gladius

There will be some changes from the technical point of view at these championships. The FIE has decided to try a new formula for the team events replacing the competition by weapon with a mixed weapon event. Both men and women's teams will be made of two foilists, two epeeist, and two sabreists. This is an experiment promoted by some countries, one being Italy. In the words of Giorgio Scarso, President of the FIS, "The revised and corrected formula of the Mediterranean's Championships in Syracuse will be adopted and it could become part of the events at the Olympic games in London in 2012. Acireale will be a kind of a lab experiment for the future of the sport of fencing where the technical aspects and the media impact of this change in the formula of team competitions will be evaluated."

Does anyone know whether it will continue to be a relay? If it reverts back to bouts then touches become important again since there will be an even number of bouts.

[oso97]

Originally Posted by fencein2012USA

I was talking about how at every junior/cadet world champiomnships, USA sends 3 cadet fencers for the individual competition. The junior/cadet pan ams are a joke.

However, if the Cadet Worlds are no longer held, they may increase in importance...

[Timacheff]

The announcement can be read along with other decisions from the FIE executive meeting at the following URL:

http://www.fie.ch/download/letters/2...2-07%20ANG.pdf

There are some other interesting announcements, such as the use of the transparent mask for foil and epee.

[fencein2012USA]

So is there cadet world championships in 2008 because in the FIE letter it says that they are biding for the J/C championships in 2008.

[nahouw]

Originally Posted by fencein2012USA

I was talking about how at every junior/cadet world champiomnships, USA sends 3 cadet fencers for the individual competition. The junior/cadet pan ams are a joke.

What it sounds like to me is that they are eliminating the cadet individual World Championships and changing it to Zonal Cadet Championships, so it seems to me to be that the Cadet Pan Ams aren't to be a "joke" any more....

[tehcow]

The mixed team event sounds like something that would be fun to do. Does anyone here have experience with such a format?

[Soberin]

Perhaps someone will check with C.Greenman at the JOs for clarification and report back...

[oiuyt]

Could be run like the Titan Games a few years ago.

-B

[rory]

The FIE decided to cancel the Cadet Worlds. Subsequently, an offer has been made by the European Fencing Federation to hold a Cadet Europeans.
The FIE didn't mandate this as far as I'm aware, so unless someone sets up your Cadet Pan-Ams, it won't happen.

[DJ Apostrophe]

Originally Posted by rory

The FIE decided to cancel the Cadet Worlds. Subsequently, an offer has been made by the European Fencing Federation to hold a Cadet Europeans.
The FIE didn't mandate this as far as I'm aware, so unless someone sets up your Cadet Pan-Ams, it won't happen.

They already exist. They have just been sparsely attended in years past.

Maybe that will change now.

-w

[I fence epee]

Why did the FIE decide to cancel the Cadet event? Do they think that Cadet fencers aren't ready to fence at that level?

[KD5MDK]

Probably considered it too expensive.

[downunder]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

Probably considered it too expensive.

This is why.

[fencerbill]

Originally Posted by I fence epee

Why did the FIE decide to cancel the Cadet event? Do they think that Cadet fencers aren't ready to fence at that level?

A lot of the smaller federations may send Juniors but not Cadets. Perhaps RR wishes to avoid embarrassing his new friends who reelected him.