01-12-2007, 12:18 AM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| A weapon can't be justifiably declared inoperable or nonconforming until it's been officially tested as such. So how do you apply that penalty for swapping a weapon before the ref gets the chance to play with his shims and weights? | 
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01-12-2007, 02:58 AM
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#22 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Angel, London
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| Some of you guys are incredible.
If someone plugs in, and immediately hits the ground and the weapon doesn't work, then he will receive a yellow card. | |
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01-12-2007, 12:00 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Tucson, AZ
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| Gee, I hate to make such a radical shift of the topic of the thread...  but I do recommend anyone coming to the Tucson NAC make hotel reservations as soon as they can. There are very few hotels near the venue, if you don't want to rent a car you really need to stay in the host hotel, Riverpark Inn, or for a slightly longer walk Days Inn. If all you care about is fencing and you get one of those hotels you can just barely be ok without a car, but to have many choices of restaurants and entertainment and really enjoy Tucson you almost do need to have car access. (Also ignore the pictures you see on the websites for Riverpark and Days Inn and keep your expectations modest or you may be disappointed, they aren't necesarily dumps but I don't think they are super nice either.) The venue is downtown and most of downtown is government and business buildings so it is somewhat deserted on the weekends and some restaurants aren't open for dinner. I'll post more ideas for good restaurants to check out later.
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01-12-2007, 07:16 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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Well, you're going to be in a world of hurt. Because, plugging in IS equivalent to "appearing on strip." Actually, if you want to get techinical about it, you report to strip, and THEN plug in, so once you've stepped on the piste with intent to fence, you are under the referee's observation, supervision and responsibility. And subject to penalties for bad equipment (among other things).
| So then, according to this interpretation, if I show up and get a card for a malfunctional weapon that I never even presented to be tested, I can actually request that all of the weapons my opponent showed up on strip with be tested and carded for any of them that are malfunctional?
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01-12-2007, 11:19 PM
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#25 | | Fencing Expert
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Originally Posted by seven6ty  So then, according to this interpretation, if I show up and get a card for a malfunctional weapon that I never even presented to be tested, I can actually request that all of the weapons my opponent showed up on strip with be tested and carded for any of them that are malfunctional? |
No.
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01-13-2007, 03:01 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DFW, Texas
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Originally Posted by seven6ty So then, according to this interpretation, if I show up and get a card for a malfunctional weapon that I never even presented to be tested, I can actually request that all of the weapons my opponent showed up on strip with be tested and carded for any of them that are malfunctional? | Not even close.
Dude, buy a test box, weights and shims. Use them DURING the bout before yours and you won't have any problems.
And just accept that coming to strip and plugging in and not having your weapon work will earn you a card. Kinda like accepting that you stepping off strip will earn your opponent a meter, or you running off the end will earn him a point.
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01-13-2007, 03:31 PM
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#27 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| Or better still, switch to sabre and avoid the whole controversy. 
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01-13-2007, 05:57 PM
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#28 | | Senior Member
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| Well, yea, I was going to suggest that, but he seems fairly fixated on that whole pokey-weapon thing...
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