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01-08-2007, 08:31 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 227
| Consistent cant to foil tangs?
Does anyone have any techniques for achieving consistent (as close to identical as possible) cants to new foil tangs; such that all one's weapons are the same - or at least start out the same? Perhaps some sort of jig?
Once a preferred cant is discovered, it would be nice to be able to duplicate it reliably. | 
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01-08-2007, 08:59 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006 Location: bath, england
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| I made a jig for my epee's, it's just a plank of wood with nails positioned so that you can bend it and keep chekcing with the jig unitl it sits in the shape created by the nails. Iff not you could measure the angle of you best foil and record it and just bend the others unitl they are the same angle. | |
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01-08-2007, 12:56 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 918
| I keep a broken blade with the right cant around to use for a reference. It's easy to hold the blades so that you can see if you need a little more cant in either direction to get them to line up. | |
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01-08-2007, 01:35 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Pacoima, ca USA
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by brtech  I keep a broken blade with the right cant around to use for a reference. It's easy to hold the blades so that you can see if you need a little more cant in either direction to get them to line up. | That's how I do it when making a new one for a client if they bring be a broken one. | 
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01-08-2007, 01:47 PM
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#5 | | Admin
Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| Bill Murphy has a canting tool that puts in the same angle on each blade put through it.
In fact, I need to bug him again about making another one up for me.
Craig | |
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01-08-2007, 01:53 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlottesville VA
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| I just have "blanks" of broken blades for myself and students/fencers who order their blades through me or have me do work on them. I would love to set a device similar to the one Craig mentions though...
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01-08-2007, 03:13 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Buffalo, NY
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| I have been obsessed with cants lately (if you would like, I could share my pseudo-scientific formula for the perfect cant).
For myself, I have decided that I want a 10 degree downward cant on all my weapons. If I were to use a French grip, I would also add a 10 degree inward cant. I am in the process of making a couple of templates for this out of plexiglass.
I also have been considering using an adjustable bevel to copy cants, like this one here: http://www.byromsupplies.co.uk/images/CB71.jpg
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01-08-2007, 03:19 PM
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#8 | | Madness?
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madison, WI
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| I just bend it, look at it, repeat as needed. | |
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01-09-2007, 02:47 AM
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#9 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,164
| white and nerdy???
need I say more really lol....
Just kidding but seriously you can repeat a cant exaactly and the weapons are likely to feel as different as two different cants. In fact 22 different cants can make weapons feel more SIMILAR rather than dissimilar since not all blades even from the same manufacturer or or even batch number
FF
PS: but if the blade is light and stiff then the perfect cant is indeed about 10-12 degrees down. no inward cant and handle turned on its axis counterclockwise about 11pm the greenwich mean groove....sometimes a 2 degree left handed cant as a right hander if the blade feels heavier than I'd like.
Last edited by fatfencer; 01-09-2007 at 02:50 AM.
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